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(08-02-2023, 08:33 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 12:12 AM)Pragmatist Wrote: (08-01-2023, 04:23 PM)pindgill Wrote: The consequences of the ECB continuing with the 100 will be dire for our counties.
Major League Cricket (MLC) in the US started 3 years ago had massive crowds this season mainly because of the Asian and Caribbean diaspora the IPL franchises are over there & next summer the will be more joining the league.This means Englands top 20/20 players like Butler Ali Stokes Bairstow etc etc will double even triple there IPL contracts to play in the US next summer too for there franchise.
We have no international cricket in August this year because of the 100 and know the ECB have left the door ajar for a competing league the IPL with its financial muscle will smash it open.
That’s not correct re Major League Cricket. It started in 2023. What previously existed (from 2021) was Minor League Cricket which is insignificant.
It hasn’t had “massive crowds”. The capacity at the Texas ground is 7,000 and at the North Carolina ground it’s just 3,000. These were sellouts, but is comparable with Taunton (5,000 capacity) selling out.
It is impossible to see these numbers making it a commercial success once the cost of player salaries is taken into account, and the major issue is that the time difference with India just doesn’t work. The extreme heat in Texas in July means that the games have to be played in the evenings, and July is the only window in which it can work in the international calendar.
I can’t see MLC being a threat until it massively ramps up what it is doing, and develops cricket stadiums with large capacities on the East Coast where the climate will enable daytime matches which work for India.
Couldn't agree more with this. To claim MLC has had "massive crowds" is frankly laughable. That doesn't change the fact that the 100, at least for the men, hasn't moved the needle at all.
However, as stated above, the women's game has seen a huge huge uptick because of the double headers and exposure that the women's game is getting. For that alone, I do see the 100 as a success. And I'm not sure that doing this in T20 format would have worked due to the length of the matches. Granted it's not that much longer, but that extra 2 hours to the matches makes as massive difference.
Hopefully they can use this platform for the women's game and push on past the 100, because I don't see the competition sticking around much longer. Typical your suffering from ostrich in sand syndrome just google attendance's for MLC they have been sell outs throughout the tournament
this year that's massive.
The point is with test cricket pencilled in for July & the 100 for August by the ECB, the window has opened for a viable very successful summer 20/20 tournament in the US.
The stadium's will get bigger the IPL franchise's will bring the money & brand recognition initially and a massive tv audience.
Know get your head out the sands and tell me if Butler Ali Roy Rashid and any other of the top 20/20 players in this country who would NOT want a multi million dollar contract and play there in fact many playing test cricket will also have there heads turned.
We will be left with kids and journey men cricketers playing in our big bash.
ECB's lack of foresight has done this!!!....
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(08-02-2023, 09:22 AM)pindgill Wrote: (08-02-2023, 08:33 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 12:12 AM)Pragmatist Wrote: (08-01-2023, 04:23 PM)pindgill Wrote: The consequences of the ECB continuing with the 100 will be dire for our counties.
Major League Cricket (MLC) in the US started 3 years ago had massive crowds this season mainly because of the Asian and Caribbean diaspora the IPL franchises are over there & next summer the will be more joining the league.This means Englands top 20/20 players like Butler Ali Stokes Bairstow etc etc will double even triple there IPL contracts to play in the US next summer too for there franchise.
We have no international cricket in August this year because of the 100 and know the ECB have left the door ajar for a competing league the IPL with its financial muscle will smash it open.
That’s not correct re Major League Cricket. It started in 2023. What previously existed (from 2021) was Minor League Cricket which is insignificant.
It hasn’t had “massive crowds”. The capacity at the Texas ground is 7,000 and at the North Carolina ground it’s just 3,000. These were sellouts, but is comparable with Taunton (5,000 capacity) selling out.
It is impossible to see these numbers making it a commercial success once the cost of player salaries is taken into account, and the major issue is that the time difference with India just doesn’t work. The extreme heat in Texas in July means that the games have to be played in the evenings, and July is the only window in which it can work in the international calendar.
I can’t see MLC being a threat until it massively ramps up what it is doing, and develops cricket stadiums with large capacities on the East Coast where the climate will enable daytime matches which work for India.
Couldn't agree more with this. To claim MLC has had "massive crowds" is frankly laughable. That doesn't change the fact that the 100, at least for the men, hasn't moved the needle at all.
However, as stated above, the women's game has seen a huge huge uptick because of the double headers and exposure that the women's game is getting. For that alone, I do see the 100 as a success. And I'm not sure that doing this in T20 format would have worked due to the length of the matches. Granted it's not that much longer, but that extra 2 hours to the matches makes as massive difference.
Hopefully they can use this platform for the women's game and push on past the 100, because I don't see the competition sticking around much longer. Typical your suffering from ostrich in sand syndrome just google attendance's for MLC they have been sell outs throughout the tournament
this year that's massive.
The point is with test cricket pencilled in for July & the 100 for August by the ECB, the window has opened for a viable very successful summer 20/20 tournament in the US.
The stadium's will get bigger the IPL franchise's will bring the money & brand recognition initially and a massive tv audience.
Know get your head out the sands and tell me if Butler Ali Roy Rashid and any other of the top 20/20 players in this country who would NOT want a multi million dollar contract and play there in fact many playing test cricket will also have there heads turned.
We will be left with kids and journey men cricketers playing in our big bash.
ECB's lack of foresight has done this!!!....
Are you okay buddy?
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(08-02-2023, 12:12 AM)Pragmatist Wrote: (08-01-2023, 04:23 PM)pindgill Wrote: The consequences of the ECB continuing with the 100 will be dire for our counties.
Major League Cricket (MLC) in the US started 3 years ago had massive crowds this season mainly because of the Asian and Caribbean diaspora the IPL franchises are over there & next summer the will be more joining the league.This means Englands top 20/20 players like Butler Ali Stokes Bairstow etc etc will double even triple there IPL contracts to play in the US next summer too for there franchise.
We have no international cricket in August this year because of the 100 and know the ECB have left the door ajar for a competing league the IPL with its financial muscle will smash it open.
That’s not correct re Major League Cricket. It started in 2023. What previously existed (from 2021) was Minor League Cricket which is insignificant.
It hasn’t had “massive crowds”. The capacity at the Texas ground is 7,000 and at the North Carolina ground it’s just 3,000. These were sellouts, but is comparable with Taunton (5,000 capacity) selling out.
It is impossible to see these numbers making it a commercial success once the cost of player salaries is taken into account, and the major issue is that the time difference with India just doesn’t work. The extreme heat in Texas in July means that the games have to be played in the evenings, and July is the only window in which it can work in the international calendar.
I can’t see MLC being a threat until it massively ramps up what it is doing, and develops cricket stadiums with large capacities on the East Coast where the climate will enable daytime matches which work for India. https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/20...i-new-york
Just some FACTS
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(08-02-2023, 09:28 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:22 AM)pindgill Wrote: (08-02-2023, 08:33 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 12:12 AM)Pragmatist Wrote: (08-01-2023, 04:23 PM)pindgill Wrote: The consequences of the ECB continuing with the 100 will be dire for our counties.
Major League Cricket (MLC) in the US started 3 years ago had massive crowds this season mainly because of the Asian and Caribbean diaspora the IPL franchises are over there & next summer the will be more joining the league.This means Englands top 20/20 players like Butler Ali Stokes Bairstow etc etc will double even triple there IPL contracts to play in the US next summer too for there franchise.
We have no international cricket in August this year because of the 100 and know the ECB have left the door ajar for a competing league the IPL with its financial muscle will smash it open.
That’s not correct re Major League Cricket. It started in 2023. What previously existed (from 2021) was Minor League Cricket which is insignificant.
It hasn’t had “massive crowds”. The capacity at the Texas ground is 7,000 and at the North Carolina ground it’s just 3,000. These were sellouts, but is comparable with Taunton (5,000 capacity) selling out.
It is impossible to see these numbers making it a commercial success once the cost of player salaries is taken into account, and the major issue is that the time difference with India just doesn’t work. The extreme heat in Texas in July means that the games have to be played in the evenings, and July is the only window in which it can work in the international calendar.
I can’t see MLC being a threat until it massively ramps up what it is doing, and develops cricket stadiums with large capacities on the East Coast where the climate will enable daytime matches which work for India.
Couldn't agree more with this. To claim MLC has had "massive crowds" is frankly laughable. That doesn't change the fact that the 100, at least for the men, hasn't moved the needle at all.
However, as stated above, the women's game has seen a huge huge uptick because of the double headers and exposure that the women's game is getting. For that alone, I do see the 100 as a success. And I'm not sure that doing this in T20 format would have worked due to the length of the matches. Granted it's not that much longer, but that extra 2 hours to the matches makes as massive difference.
Hopefully they can use this platform for the women's game and push on past the 100, because I don't see the competition sticking around much longer. Typical your suffering from ostrich in sand syndrome just google attendance's for MLC they have been sell outs throughout the tournament
this year that's massive.
The point is with test cricket pencilled in for July & the 100 for August by the ECB, the window has opened for a viable very successful summer 20/20 tournament in the US.
The stadium's will get bigger the IPL franchise's will bring the money & brand recognition initially and a massive tv audience.
Know get your head out the sands and tell me if Butler Ali Roy Rashid and any other of the top 20/20 players in this country who would NOT want a multi million dollar contract and play there in fact many playing test cricket will also have there heads turned.
We will be left with kids and journey men cricketers playing in our big bash.
ECB's lack of foresight has done this!!!....
Are you okay buddy?
He's passionate!
But Ido think we should be wary of what is going on over the water. The Saudi revolution of football has taken many by surprise. Cricket in the USA will take longer but I would not discount it's potential.
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(08-02-2023, 09:31 AM)rsbaggy2 Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:28 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:22 AM)pindgill Wrote: (08-02-2023, 08:33 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 12:12 AM)Pragmatist Wrote: That’s not correct re Major League Cricket. It started in 2023. What previously existed (from 2021) was Minor League Cricket which is insignificant.
It hasn’t had “massive crowds”. The capacity at the Texas ground is 7,000 and at the North Carolina ground it’s just 3,000. These were sellouts, but is comparable with Taunton (5,000 capacity) selling out.
It is impossible to see these numbers making it a commercial success once the cost of player salaries is taken into account, and the major issue is that the time difference with India just doesn’t work. The extreme heat in Texas in July means that the games have to be played in the evenings, and July is the only window in which it can work in the international calendar.
I can’t see MLC being a threat until it massively ramps up what it is doing, and develops cricket stadiums with large capacities on the East Coast where the climate will enable daytime matches which work for India.
Couldn't agree more with this. To claim MLC has had "massive crowds" is frankly laughable. That doesn't change the fact that the 100, at least for the men, hasn't moved the needle at all.
However, as stated above, the women's game has seen a huge huge uptick because of the double headers and exposure that the women's game is getting. For that alone, I do see the 100 as a success. And I'm not sure that doing this in T20 format would have worked due to the length of the matches. Granted it's not that much longer, but that extra 2 hours to the matches makes as massive difference.
Hopefully they can use this platform for the women's game and push on past the 100, because I don't see the competition sticking around much longer. Typical your suffering from ostrich in sand syndrome just google attendance's for MLC they have been sell outs throughout the tournament
this year that's massive.
The point is with test cricket pencilled in for July & the 100 for August by the ECB, the window has opened for a viable very successful summer 20/20 tournament in the US.
The stadium's will get bigger the IPL franchise's will bring the money & brand recognition initially and a massive tv audience.
Know get your head out the sands and tell me if Butler Ali Roy Rashid and any other of the top 20/20 players in this country who would NOT want a multi million dollar contract and play there in fact many playing test cricket will also have there heads turned.
We will be left with kids and journey men cricketers playing in our big bash.
ECB's lack of foresight has done this!!!....
Are you okay buddy?
He's passionate!
But Ido think we should be wary of what is going on over the water. The Saudi revolution of football has taken many by surprise. Cricket in the USA will take longer but I would not discount it's potential.
Baseball is copping a lot of stick in the media, especially for the lack of home runs. They've already changed rules to speed the game up. The point being fans are unhappy with the baseball product. I wonder if you'll see people take to T20 as an alternative to baseball. If that happens then the US competition could be massive.
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(08-02-2023, 10:04 AM)SuperBob2002 Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:31 AM)rsbaggy2 Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:28 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:22 AM)pindgill Wrote: (08-02-2023, 08:33 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: Couldn't agree more with this. To claim MLC has had "massive crowds" is frankly laughable. That doesn't change the fact that the 100, at least for the men, hasn't moved the needle at all.
However, as stated above, the women's game has seen a huge huge uptick because of the double headers and exposure that the women's game is getting. For that alone, I do see the 100 as a success. And I'm not sure that doing this in T20 format would have worked due to the length of the matches. Granted it's not that much longer, but that extra 2 hours to the matches makes as massive difference.
Hopefully they can use this platform for the women's game and push on past the 100, because I don't see the competition sticking around much longer. Typical your suffering from ostrich in sand syndrome just google attendance's for MLC they have been sell outs throughout the tournament
this year that's massive.
The point is with test cricket pencilled in for July & the 100 for August by the ECB, the window has opened for a viable very successful summer 20/20 tournament in the US.
The stadium's will get bigger the IPL franchise's will bring the money & brand recognition initially and a massive tv audience.
Know get your head out the sands and tell me if Butler Ali Roy Rashid and any other of the top 20/20 players in this country who would NOT want a multi million dollar contract and play there in fact many playing test cricket will also have there heads turned.
We will be left with kids and journey men cricketers playing in our big bash.
ECB's lack of foresight has done this!!!....
Are you okay buddy?
He's passionate!
But Ido think we should be wary of what is going on over the water. The Saudi revolution of football has taken many by surprise. Cricket in the USA will take longer but I would not discount it's potential.
Baseball is copping a lot of stick in the media, especially for the lack of home runs. They've already changed rules to speed the game up. The point being fans are unhappy with the baseball product. I wonder if you'll see people take to T20 as an alternative to baseball. If that happens then the US competition could be massive.
Baseball is awful. Went to a game many moons ago, White Sox v Royals. Lots of folks drinking pish beer and eating awful hot-dogs, whilst clapping occasionally, watching blokes in pyjamas take an age to throw the ball at a bloke with a big rounders bat to mostly miss.
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(08-02-2023, 10:04 AM)SuperBob2002 Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:31 AM)rsbaggy2 Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:28 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 09:22 AM)pindgill Wrote: (08-02-2023, 08:33 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: Couldn't agree more with this. To claim MLC has had "massive crowds" is frankly laughable. That doesn't change the fact that the 100, at least for the men, hasn't moved the needle at all.
However, as stated above, the women's game has seen a huge huge uptick because of the double headers and exposure that the women's game is getting. For that alone, I do see the 100 as a success. And I'm not sure that doing this in T20 format would have worked due to the length of the matches. Granted it's not that much longer, but that extra 2 hours to the matches makes as massive difference.
Hopefully they can use this platform for the women's game and push on past the 100, because I don't see the competition sticking around much longer. Typical your suffering from ostrich in sand syndrome just google attendance's for MLC they have been sell outs throughout the tournament
this year that's massive.
The point is with test cricket pencilled in for July & the 100 for August by the ECB, the window has opened for a viable very successful summer 20/20 tournament in the US.
The stadium's will get bigger the IPL franchise's will bring the money & brand recognition initially and a massive tv audience.
Know get your head out the sands and tell me if Butler Ali Roy Rashid and any other of the top 20/20 players in this country who would NOT want a multi million dollar contract and play there in fact many playing test cricket will also have there heads turned.
We will be left with kids and journey men cricketers playing in our big bash.
ECB's lack of foresight has done this!!!....
Are you okay buddy?
He's passionate!
But Ido think we should be wary of what is going on over the water. The Saudi revolution of football has taken many by surprise. Cricket in the USA will take longer but I would not discount it's potential.
Baseball is copping a lot of stick in the media, especially for the lack of home runs. They've already changed rules to speed the game up. The point being fans are unhappy with the baseball product. I wonder if you'll see people take to T20 as an alternative to baseball. If that happens then the US competition could be massive.
There might be a tiny minority that takes to T20 over baseball, but it will never ever happen in anything like big numbers.
Baseball is "America's pasttime". It's far too ingrained in their culture. No chance it gets replaced with T20.
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What very few people realise is that the decision not to play the Ashes in August was at the request of Sky who didn’t want it clashing with their Premier League coverage
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(08-02-2023, 11:18 AM)Pragmatist Wrote: What very few people realise is that the decision not to play the Ashes in August was at the request of Sky who didn’t want it clashing with their Premier League coverage
England are playing 9 20/20 & ODI internationals against NZ In September finish September end I’ve never known a cricket season lasting so late & well into Autumn.
All just to accommodate this joke 100 utter nonsense
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(08-02-2023, 09:22 AM)pindgill Wrote: (08-02-2023, 08:33 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (08-02-2023, 12:12 AM)Pragmatist Wrote: (08-01-2023, 04:23 PM)pindgill Wrote: The consequences of the ECB continuing with the 100 will be dire for our counties.
Major League Cricket (MLC) in the US started 3 years ago had massive crowds this season mainly because of the Asian and Caribbean diaspora the IPL franchises are over there & next summer the will be more joining the league.This means Englands top 20/20 players like Butler Ali Stokes Bairstow etc etc will double even triple there IPL contracts to play in the US next summer too for there franchise.
We have no international cricket in August this year because of the 100 and know the ECB have left the door ajar for a competing league the IPL with its financial muscle will smash it open.
That’s not correct re Major League Cricket. It started in 2023. What previously existed (from 2021) was Minor League Cricket which is insignificant.
It hasn’t had “massive crowds”. The capacity at the Texas ground is 7,000 and at the North Carolina ground it’s just 3,000. These were sellouts, but is comparable with Taunton (5,000 capacity) selling out.
It is impossible to see these numbers making it a commercial success once the cost of player salaries is taken into account, and the major issue is that the time difference with India just doesn’t work. The extreme heat in Texas in July means that the games have to be played in the evenings, and July is the only window in which it can work in the international calendar.
I can’t see MLC being a threat until it massively ramps up what it is doing, and develops cricket stadiums with large capacities on the East Coast where the climate will enable daytime matches which work for India.
Couldn't agree more with this. To claim MLC has had "massive crowds" is frankly laughable. That doesn't change the fact that the 100, at least for the men, hasn't moved the needle at all.
However, as stated above, the women's game has seen a huge huge uptick because of the double headers and exposure that the women's game is getting. For that alone, I do see the 100 as a success. And I'm not sure that doing this in T20 format would have worked due to the length of the matches. Granted it's not that much longer, but that extra 2 hours to the matches makes as massive difference.
Hopefully they can use this platform for the women's game and push on past the 100, because I don't see the competition sticking around much longer. Typical your suffering from ostrich in sand syndrome just google attendance's for MLC they have been sell outs throughout the tournament
this year that's massive.
The point is with test cricket pencilled in for July & the 100 for August by the ECB, the window has opened for a viable very successful summer 20/20 tournament in the US.
The stadium's will get bigger the IPL franchise's will bring the money & brand recognition initially and a massive tv audience.
Know get your head out the sands and tell me if Butler Ali Roy Rashid and any other of the top 20/20 players in this country who would NOT want a multi million dollar contract and play there in fact many playing test cricket will also have there heads turned.
We will be left with kids and journey men cricketers playing in our big bash.
ECB's lack of foresight has done this!!!....
Utter rubbish Pindgill and capped off with your usual dig at England cricket and the good old ECB, tiresome pal
Players have turned down IPL lucrative contracts and similar from other franchise leagues, seen all this before, some will go, some will not, just roll with it
Test cricket is and always will be the pinnacle of any players CV
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