The lies, falsehoods of Johnson & his government

[strawman]

Proth in 'only readng the bits that he wants to' shocker.

Any actions taken must be "restricted with regard to their scope and duration" - if only someone had mentioned that there needs to be a time period put on this, by not putting a period of time on it they will be breaking the terms of the agreement.

Once invoked..."both parties should enter into negotiations to find a solution". "If negotiations fail and either party adopts unilateral measures then the other may take proportionate rebalancing measures".

If anyone can identify a solution then it would be good to hear. I would imagine that if the government had a solution they would have either implemented it or told us about it.

Have they actually invoked the clause yet or just threatened it - let's not foget that the EU was the first to actually invoke the clause, though they did withdraw later stating it was a 'mistake'.


The EU invoked Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol which allows parts of the deal to be unilaterally overridden.
In a new regulation, the European Commission stated: "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55864442

[baggy1]

They did and then u-turned pretty quickly after both the UK and Irish governments objected.

[Protheroe]

Proth in 'only readng the bits that he wants to' shocker.

Any actions taken must be "restricted with regard to their scope and duration" - if only someone had mentioned that there needs to be a time period put on this, by not putting a period of time on it they will be breaking the terms of the agreement.

Once invoked..."both parties should enter into negotiations to find a solution". "If negotiations fail and either party adopts unilateral measures then the other may take proportionate rebalancing measures".

If anyone can identify a solution then it would be good to hear. I would imagine that if the government had a solution they would have either implemented it or told us about it.

Point to the definition of either in the Protocol. There is none. I read contracts for a living. It's deliberately vague.

"Both parties" means just that, not the stiff arm from one party or the other.

It's not just down to the UK government, it's down to "both parties", that's the essence of a negotiation.

[Derek Hardballs]

Proth in 'only readng the bits that he wants to' shocker.

Any actions taken must be "restricted with regard to their scope and duration" - if only someone had mentioned that there needs to be a time period put on this, by not putting a period of time on it they will be breaking the terms of the agreement.

Once invoked..."both parties should enter into negotiations to find a solution". "If negotiations fail and either party adopts unilateral measures then the other may take proportionate rebalancing measures".

If anyone can identify a solution then it would be good to hear. I would imagine that if the government had a solution they would have either implemented it or told us about it.

Point to the definition of either in the Protocol. There is none. I read contracts for a living. It's deliberately vague.

"Both parties" means just that, not the stiff arm from one party or the other.

It's not just down to the UK government, it's down to "both parties", that's the essence of a negotiation.

Special relationship

[Protheroe]

A barely coherent geriatric dog-whistles his Irish base. No one saw that coming.

[Sotv]

Proth in 'only readng the bits that he wants to' shocker.

Any actions taken must be "restricted with regard to their scope and duration" - if only someone had mentioned that there needs to be a time period put on this, by not putting a period of time on it they will be breaking the terms of the agreement.

Once invoked..."both parties should enter into negotiations to find a solution". "If negotiations fail and either party adopts unilateral measures then the other may take proportionate rebalancing measures".

If anyone can identify a solution then it would be good to hear. I would imagine that if the government had a solution they would have either implemented it or told us about it.

Have they actually invoked the clause yet or just threatened it - let's not foget that the EU was the first to actually invoke the clause, though they did withdraw later stating it was a 'mistake'.


The EU invoked Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol which allows parts of the deal to be unilaterally overridden.
In a new regulation, the European Commission stated: "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55864442

It's fine when those nice people at the EU do it, it's a travesty and reason for screaming how terrible the entire country is when the exact same thing is done by the Tories.
You should know the rules and mentality of the permanently bitter in here by now

[Protheroe]

Proth in 'only readng the bits that he wants to' shocker.

Any actions taken must be "restricted with regard to their scope and duration" - if only someone had mentioned that there needs to be a time period put on this, by not putting a period of time on it they will be breaking the terms of the agreement.

Once invoked..."both parties should enter into negotiations to find a solution". "If negotiations fail and either party adopts unilateral measures then the other may take proportionate rebalancing measures".

If anyone can identify a solution then it would be good to hear. I would imagine that if the government had a solution they would have either implemented it or told us about it.

Have they actually invoked the clause yet or just threatened it - let's not foget that the EU was the first to actually invoke the clause, though they did withdraw later stating it was a 'mistake'.


The EU invoked Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol which allows parts of the deal to be unilaterally overridden.
In a new regulation, the European Commission stated: "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55864442

It's fine when those nice people at the EU do it, it's a travesty and reason for screaming how terrible the entire country is when the exact same thing is done by the Tories.
You should know the rules and mentality of the permanently bitter in here by now

Let's not forget how the Commission reacted pretty much the moment the UK appeared to have an advantage on Covid vaccination ordering by being able to move more quickly. 

https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-euro...entralism/

[Pontificator]

Proth in 'only readng the bits that he wants to' shocker.

Any actions taken must be "restricted with regard to their scope and duration" - if only someone had mentioned that there needs to be a time period put on this, by not putting a period of time on it they will be breaking the terms of the agreement.

Once invoked..."both parties should enter into negotiations to find a solution". "If negotiations fail and either party adopts unilateral measures then the other may take proportionate rebalancing measures".

If anyone can identify a solution then it would be good to hear. I would imagine that if the government had a solution they would have either implemented it or told us about it.

Have they actually invoked the clause yet or just threatened it - let's not foget that the EU was the first to actually invoke the clause, though they did withdraw later stating it was a 'mistake'.


The EU invoked Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol which allows parts of the deal to be unilaterally overridden.
In a new regulation, the European Commission stated: "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55864442

It's fine when those nice people at the EU do it, it's a travesty and reason for screaming how terrible the entire country is when the exact same thing is done by the Tories.
You should know the rules and mentality of the permanently bitter in here by now

Let's not forget how the Commission reacted pretty much the moment the UK appeared to have an advantage on Covid vaccination ordering by being able to move more quickly. 

https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-euro...entralism/

and there it is - change the subject talk about something else

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A barely coherent geriatric dog-whistles his Irish base. No one saw that coming.

I missed that one - play the man

[Borin' Baggie]

Proth in 'only readng the bits that he wants to' shocker.

Any actions taken must be "restricted with regard to their scope and duration" - if only someone had mentioned that there needs to be a time period put on this, by not putting a period of time on it they will be breaking the terms of the agreement.

Once invoked..."both parties should enter into negotiations to find a solution". "If negotiations fail and either party adopts unilateral measures then the other may take proportionate rebalancing measures".

If anyone can identify a solution then it would be good to hear. I would imagine that if the government had a solution they would have either implemented it or told us about it.

Have they actually invoked the clause yet or just threatened it - let's not foget that the EU was the first to actually invoke the clause, though they did withdraw later stating it was a 'mistake'.


The EU invoked Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol which allows parts of the deal to be unilaterally overridden.
In a new regulation, the European Commission stated: "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55864442

It's fine when those nice people at the EU do it, it's a travesty and reason for screaming how terrible the entire country is when the exact same thing is done by the Tories.
You should know the rules and mentality of the permanently bitter in here by now

Let's not forget how the Commission reacted pretty much the moment the UK appeared to have an advantage on Covid vaccination ordering by being able to move more quickly. 

https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-euro...entralism/

and there it is - change the subject talk about something else

Not to mention completely neglecting to mention the Council's and Ireland's response to it causing Von Der Leyen to go back with her tail between her legs.

[Protheroe]

I will play Biden as much as I like. The fuckwit is an international liability. Taiwan today FFS.