VAR

[HugeHons]

From the image they drew from the Everton players foot to Diagnes foot it's the correct decision. But looking at the whole image the Everton players arm/shoulder is playing Diagne on.

But the ball wasn't in that picture so how do we know when it was played?

There is an image on Twitter. From the Everton players foot to Diagne's he is 2 inches offside when the ball is played. But the Everton player is leaning in towards goal. From that image it looks like his arm and shoulder are playing Diagne onside. VAR only appeared to check foit to foot though.

Arms aren’t considered in VAR calculations. The law is any part of the body that can legally score a goal.

Wasn’t there a goal chalked off earlier this week for an arm offside? Can’t remember the game though

[TartanRug]

From the image they drew from the Everton players foot to Diagnes foot it's the correct decision. But looking at the whole image the Everton players arm/shoulder is playing Diagne on.

But the ball wasn't in that picture so how do we know when it was played?

This is a huge issue with offsides on VAR, and one rarely mentioned. There is never any debate whether the frame is the correct one for when the ball is exactly played. I also read somewhere that the time taken between each frame means there can be quite a difference in the amount the offside player and defender can move (in the space of one frame, if you get me). Not sure I’ve explained that well, but it’s something that is never mentioned. Everyone’s focus is always on the offside player/defender, never on whether the video is stopped at the precise moment the ball is played. And more particularly, whether the gap between each frame then makes the fact we are judging offsides by a cm absurd.

Very good point, they can't tell with that level of accuracy when the ball is played so why can do they think they can be so accurate with the supposedly offside player's position?

[Duffers]

From the image they drew from the Everton players foot to Diagnes foot it's the correct decision. But looking at the whole image the Everton players arm/shoulder is playing Diagne on.

But the ball wasn't in that picture so how do we know when it was played?

There is an image on Twitter. From the Everton players foot to Diagne's he is 2 inches offside when the ball is played. But the Everton player is leaning in towards goal. From that image it looks like his arm and shoulder are playing Diagne onside. VAR only appeared to check foit to foot though.

Arms aren’t considered in VAR calculations. The law is any part of the body that can legally score a goal.

Wasn’t there a goal chalked off earlier this week for an arm offside? Can’t remember the game though

Was there? Fuck knows anymore. Pretty sure they make it up as they go along.

[Fido]

From the image they drew from the Everton players foot to Diagnes foot it's the correct decision. But looking at the whole image the Everton players arm/shoulder is playing Diagne on.

But the ball wasn't in that picture so how do we know when it was played?

There is an image on Twitter. From the Everton players foot to Diagne's he is 2 inches offside when the ball is played. But the Everton player is leaning in towards goal. From that image it looks like his arm and shoulder are playing Diagne onside. VAR only appeared to check foit to foot though.

Arms aren’t considered in VAR calculations. The law is any part of the body that can legally score a goal.

Wasn’t there a goal chalked off earlier this week for an arm offside? Can’t remember the game though

Bamford, I think.

[HugeHons]

But the ball wasn't in that picture so how do we know when it was played?

There is an image on Twitter. From the Everton players foot to Diagne's he is 2 inches offside when the ball is played. But the Everton player is leaning in towards goal. From that image it looks like his arm and shoulder are playing Diagne onside. VAR only appeared to check foit to foot though.

Arms aren’t considered in VAR calculations. The law is any part of the body that can legally score a goal.

Wasn’t there a goal chalked off earlier this week for an arm offside? Can’t remember the game though

Was there? Fuck knows anymore. Pretty sure they make it up as they go along.

Can’t remember which game,I’ll go and find out.VAR is shit!

[Tom Joad]

TBF, harsh as it might be, the linesman gave it off. VAR would be highly unlikely to over rule it without clear evidence Diagne was onside. We didn't have that. I think I'll write this one off, we've had far worse injustice this season.

[rsbaggy2]

I was surprised.....and then not....how quickly they came to the decision, it was a wafer thin call surely?

Were the Indian DRS crew in the VAR truck?

Cuzer

No they weren't.  By the general consensus of England cricket fans on here, if they were then they would only have found in favour of the home team.

Loffin ?

Still wearing those blinkers pal   

Cuzer

No just stating fact. I suppose I should have added 

[Fido]

TBF, harsh as it might be, the linesman gave it off. VAR would be highly unlikely to over rule it without clear evidence Diagne was onside. We didn't have that. I think I'll write this one off, we've had far worse injustice this season.

+1

[backsidebaggie]

From the image they drew from the Everton players foot to Diagnes foot it's the correct decision. But looking at the whole image the Everton players arm/shoulder is playing Diagne on.

But the ball wasn't in that picture so how do we know when it was played?

This is a huge issue with offsides on VAR, and one rarely mentioned. There is never any debate whether the frame is the correct one for when the ball is exactly played. I also read somewhere that the time taken between each frame means there can be quite a difference in the amount the offside player and defender can move (in the space of one frame, if you get me). Not sure I’ve explained that well, but it’s something that is never mentioned. Everyone’s focus is always on the offside player/defender, never on whether the video is stopped at the precise moment the ball is played. And more particularly, whether the gap between each frame then makes the fact we are judging offsides by a cm absurd.

Very good point, they can't tell with that level of accuracy when the ball is played so why can do they think they can be so accurate with the supposedly offside player's position?

I did read somewhere once that if it’s a situation where the defender is running out, and the forward running towards goal, the difference both players cover (and hence the total difference as they’re going in opposite directions) in one frame can be quite a bit. I can’t remember how much, but it’s way more than a couple of cm. Which then makes the whole thing a farce really.

Edit: just found this article on it. 50 frames per second. There can be quite a margin for error when players are running... over a foot! Crikey! which really does make offsides with VAR a farce IMO. I do agree though that makes no odds to us today as the lino gave it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyma...error.html

[Cunninghamismagic]

From the image they drew from the Everton players foot to Diagnes foot it's the correct decision. But looking at the whole image the Everton players arm/shoulder is playing Diagne on.

But the ball wasn't in that picture so how do we know when it was played?

There is an image on Twitter. From the Everton players foot to Diagne's he is 2 inches offside when the ball is played. But the Everton player is leaning in towards goal. From that image it looks like his arm and shoulder are playing Diagne onside. VAR only appeared to check foit to foot though.

Arms aren’t considered in VAR calculations. The law is any part of the body that can legally score a goal.

Wasn’t there a goal chalked off earlier this week for an arm offside? Can’t remember the game though

Extended arms have seen numerous goals allowed/disallowed by VAR this season.