UK Covid death toll

[The liquidator]

We all know it shouldn't have gone ahead. Still don't get to why you object to having more vaccinated and the other at a later date it makes perfect sense...... Try not to the look on the Could scenario.

[Derek Hardballs]

We all know it shouldn't have gone ahead.    Still don't get to why you object to having more vaccinated and the other at a later date it makes perfect sense...... Try not to the look on the  Could scenario.

The doctors are asking for the length of time to be shortened to six weeks. The WHO don’t recommend what we are doing, no other country as far as I’m aware are following our path and the makers of the vaccine state not to extend the recommended period for the second vaccine. It’s a questionable strategy only time will tell if it was the correct decision.

[The liquidator]

I just think the outcry is way OTT Derek. I know you don't like the tories but let's be honest whoever was in charge it would be a thankless task and a no win situation that's why I'm a bit easy on them.... The only thing I'm really annoyed at is when they fucked up the care homes Hancock should have resigned on that alone...... Hope you're well Derek whatever our differences on things in life I think your a decent bloke with good values...... Even if you love pulis 0))))))

[bradesbaggie]

[Derek Hardballs]

I see that the Libertarian numpties (I’m being VERY polite) on the Conservative back benches (grown adults who are acting like stroppy teenagers / toddlers) are demanding easing of lockdown when we shall probably go past 100k deaths this week. The NHS is facing the highest number of people in intensive care I believe ever at one time and we have one of the worst death rates in the World! Grow up, and stop pretending you care about the most vulnerable!

[Tom Joad]

Once again the BBC 6.0 news opens with the question (to Matt Hancock),  "Can you tell us when you intend to ease the lockdown restrictions, and if not, why not"? I'm no fan of this government but they must despair at this.

[TETLEY74]

Once again the BBC 6.0 news opens with the question (to Matt Hancock),  "Can you tell us when you intend to ease the lockdown restrictions, and if not, why not"? I'm no fan of this government but they must despair at this.

This is exactly what happened back in the summer lock down constant pressure from the media on easing lock down eventually the government caved in and eased lock down  far to quickly and early, should have last at lasted another 3/4weeks and a very gradual and staggered easing of measures not the cluster fuck rush into seemingly normality we had imvho.

[Derek Hardballs]

Once again the BBC 6.0 news opens with the question (to Matt Hancock),  "Can you tell us when you intend to ease the lockdown restrictions, and if not, why not"? I'm no fan of this government but they must despair at this.

This is exactly what happened back in the summer lock down constant pressure from the media on easing lock down eventually the government caved in and eased lock down  far to quickly and early, should have last at lasted another 3/4weeks and a very gradual and staggered easing of measures not the cluster fuck rush into seemingly normality we had imvho.

You seem to have forgotten the campaigns to go back to work by the government, the eat out to help out  scheme and half the party wanting to ease lockdown. Not to mention go back to school it’s safe.. no testing, no extra space for pupils etc. 

Bad media

[wba13]

Some concerning news about the AstraZeneca vaccine emerging
Some are saying only effective on 8% on over 65’s.
But Astra Zeneca are refuting those claims.

[Borin' Baggie]

Some concerning news about the AstraZeneca vaccine emerging
Some are saying only effective on 8% on over 65’s.
But Astra Zeneca are refuting those claims.

Wouldn't worry about it, the three likely scenarios are that the German politician who leaked it has misunderstood data from the EMA (not understanding what lower bounds are), is mixing up the numbers tested with the efficacy rate (8.25% of those tested in the Oxford trial were over 65) or is being a twat (deliberately using the lower bound to make the vaccine look bad). The EMA decision is being made on Friday and we'll have a better understanding of things then, I'd imagine they may be cautious for use on over 65s with a preference to the other vaccines while promoting it for under 65s.

More concerning is the EU putting pressure on Pfizer and Moderna to notify all deliveries outside the EU to third countries (now the UK) with a view to withholding deliveries as a result of AZ apparently moving significant quantities of the EU stockpiles of their vaccine made in Belgium to the UK resulting in a shortage of the AZ vaccine in the EU. Now if Sturgeon wasn't a moron and hadn't leaked the UK vaccine strategy this wouldn't be happening.