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If anyone is interested in seeing the impact of COVID19 in their local area, there is an interactive map in section 6 of this link where you can enter your postcode and it will show you the data for your local area (possibly parish judging by what I see for my area). Data covers the whole of March, April and May.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationa...d31may2020
It is truly shocking how bad our deaths have been compared to others death per million population:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Countries like Thailand, Vietnam, Australia, Singapore, Japan, India, Indonesia with less than 10 deaths per million.
How any govt could say that this has been handled as well as it can would be beyond me.
No doubt the voters at the last election will swallow it up though like they did the previous sack of untruths.
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This weeks figures show us nearly back to normal with very comparable figures to this time last year. However the excess deaths has still grown slightly by an extra 569, which is down from 1,564, 2,004, 4,301 and 3,602 growth over the last few weeks. Nearly there - hopefully we will see some negative excess death weeks to test the theory that 'they would have died anyway' (not my words).
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06-16-2020, 09:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2020, 09:17 AM by Albionbaggie2019.)
Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan are countries that have had pandemics so there may be some immunity & certainly experience in dealing with this.
Australia & New Zealand have been lucky but benefit from extra land mass and less of a population.
India are only just getting this like the UK did in April and i expect the figures to be bigger than us
We report the deaths better then others & others do indeed report differently
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(06-16-2020, 09:14 AM)Albionbaggie2019 Wrote: Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan are countries that have had pandemics so there may be some immunity & certainly experience in dealing with this.
Australia & New Zealand have been lucky but benefit from extra land mass and less of a population.
India are only just getting this like the UK did in April and i expect the figures to be bigger then us
We report the deaths better then others & others do indeed report differently
I think we can safely say India will have bigger figures than us - their population is 20 times ours
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Bang goes my holiday to goa .
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06-16-2020, 03:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2020, 03:24 PM by Ossian.)
(06-16-2020, 09:14 AM)Albionbaggie2019 Wrote: Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan are countries that have had pandemics so there may be some immunity & certainly experience in dealing with this.
Australia & New Zealand have been lucky but benefit from extra land mass and less of a population.
India are only just getting this like the UK did in April and i expect the figures to be bigger than us
We report the deaths better then others & others do indeed report differently
I'm thinking there's a bit more to our unfavourable comparisons with other countries than their dumb luck and our better reporting.
Things like the delayed and inadequate initial response; the failure to lock down the borders and quarantine at the points of entry; the lack of adequate supplies of PPE - made worse by the failure to source them in the early stages of the outbreak; all symptomatic of inadequate funding, poor preparation, worse response.
The responsibility for all of the above lies in one place and one place only; when a government has been in office for a full decade everything's down to them, no point looking elsewhere, much though they will try. The unsatisfactory, half-baked situation we still find ourselves in as of today is the legacy of this appallingly useless government.
I've tried to stay way from this part of the board of late because, to be honest, I was bored with listening to myself repeating the same few points ad nauseam. Today I snapped.
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(06-16-2020, 03:23 PM)Ossian Wrote: (06-16-2020, 09:14 AM)Albionbaggie2019 Wrote: Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan are countries that have had pandemics so there may be some immunity & certainly experience in dealing with this.
Australia & New Zealand have been lucky but benefit from extra land mass and less of a population.
India are only just getting this like the UK did in April and i expect the figures to be bigger than us
We report the deaths better then others & others do indeed report differently
I'm thinking there's a bit more to our unfavourable comparisons with other countries than their dumb luck and our better reporting.
Things like the delayed and inadequate initial response; the failure to lock down the borders and quarantine at the points of entry; the lack of adequate supplies of PPE - made worse by the failure to source them in the early stages of the outbreak; all symptomatic of inadequate funding, poor preparation, worse response.
The responsibility for all of the above lies in one place and one place only; when a government has been in office for a full decade everything's down to them, no point looking elsewhere, much though they will try. The unsatisfactory, half-baked situation we still find ourselves in as of today is the legacy of this appallingly useless government.
I've tried to stay way from this part of the board of late because, to be honest, I was bored with listening to myself repeating the same few points ad nauseam. Today I snapped.
Bleeding echo chamber
(06-16-2020, 03:23 PM)Ossian Wrote: (06-16-2020, 09:14 AM)Albionbaggie2019 Wrote: Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan are countries that have had pandemics so there may be some immunity & certainly experience in dealing with this.
Australia & New Zealand have been lucky but benefit from extra land mass and less of a population.
India are only just getting this like the UK did in April and i expect the figures to be bigger than us
We report the deaths better then others & others do indeed report differently
I'm thinking there's a bit more to our unfavourable comparisons with other countries than their dumb luck and our better reporting.
Things like the delayed and inadequate initial response; the failure to lock down the borders and quarantine at the points of entry; the lack of adequate supplies of PPE - made worse by the failure to source them in the early stages of the outbreak; all symptomatic of inadequate funding, poor preparation, worse response.
The responsibility for all of the above lies in one place and one place only; when a government has been in office for a full decade everything's down to them, no point looking elsewhere, much though they will try. The unsatisfactory, half-baked situation we still find ourselves in as of today is the legacy of this appallingly useless government.
I've tried to stay way from this part of the board of late because, to be honest, I was bored with listening to myself repeating the same few points ad nauseam. Today I snapped.
I agree I didn't reply to Albionbaggie because I'd just be going round in circles again. I think you'd have to be blue to the core, and not have a heart, to say that the UK have handled this well. Been an absolute clusterfuck all the way round
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Interesting to note that less people than usual died in London over the last few days.
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