USA

[Baggiejacko]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7yv4524gqo

Easily avoidable. Stupid waste of life. Wifey didn't cover herself in glory either.

[Borin' Baggie]

You're still blaming her when they video literally shows her car moving towards the fucking left away from the cunt that killed her? Seriously? And you can hear the contradictory commands issued moments before she's killed. And bringing up the wife as though a bloody camera is a threatening weapon?

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Also, you can tell that the camera switched hands to free up the shooting hand before the car started slowly moving forward. I hope that cunt rots in prison.

[rsbaggy2]

You're still blaming her when they video literally shows her car moving towards the fucking left away from the cunt that killed her? Seriously? And you can hear the contradictory commands issued moments before she's killed. And bringing up the wife as though a bloody camera is a threatening weapon?

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Also, you can tell that the camera switched hands to free up the shooting hand before the car started slowly moving forward. I hope that cunt rots in prison.

Baggiejacko is either a WUM or just a thick twat.
That's me being polite.

[BertieTheBaggie]

You're still blaming her when they video literally shows her car moving towards the fucking left away from the cunt that killed her? Seriously? And you can hear the contradictory commands issued moments before she's killed. And bringing up the wife as though a bloody camera is a threatening weapon?

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Also, you can tell that the camera switched hands to free up the shooting hand before the car started slowly moving forward. I hope that cunt rots in prison.

Michael Jackson may be long gone but we have our own Wacko Jacko.

[Baggiejacko]

VAR says own goal

[Baggybenny]

By VAR, you mean Vance and R-sole

[Baggiejacko]

Victims Actions Regret

[Ted Maul]

Caveat this post with the fact that I have zero law enforcement training, but there are a few things that jump out in this and many other similar situations we've seen in the US.

1) If you have the guns (ICE, in this instance) then surely you have the power and you are able to set the tone for the interaction? On a really basic level, if you turn up armed to the heavens ready to bash some heads in then you'll be met with an equal and opposite reaction. We often say when policing football matches, if you treat people like criminals from the off then guess what, they'll start acting like it.

2) With point 1 in mind, aren't any law enforcement there to control situations via de-escalation? The use of force should be last resort and should surely start with using the minimal force required. The woman is in her car and is certainly not immediately armed.

3) If you have to review evidence to find an excuse for the use of force (deadly or otherwise) then to me I'd say you are in the wrong.

4) Renee Good was in her car, prepared to move away after even telling the officer that she wasn't mad at him. Is the best course of action here simply to move away from her vehicle and see if she does drive away? Continuing to circle a vehicle and subsequently putting yourself in danger when the driver does attempt to move away does not feel like an excuse for the use of deadly force to me.

Fucking stupid country led by a dangerous and stupid man who will continue to reap the rewards for the society that they have created. The obsession with guns and the perceived weakness of backing down will ensure there will be tens of other situations just like this one. I'm convinced if you lived in the US they'd send a SWAT team to get a cat out of a tree.

[Derek Hardballs]

Caveat this post with the fact that I have zero law enforcement training, but there are a few things that jump out in this and many other similar situations we've seen in the US.

1) If you have the guns (ICE, in this instance) then surely you have the power and you are able to set the tone for the interaction? On a really basic level, if you turn up armed to the heavens ready to bash some heads in then you'll be met with an equal and opposite reaction. We often say when policing football matches, if you treat people like criminals from the off then guess what, they'll start acting like it.

2) With point 1 in mind, aren't any law enforcement there to control situations via de-escalation? The use of force should be last resort and should surely start with using the minimal force required. The woman is in her car and is certainly not immediately armed.

3) If you have to review evidence to find an excuse for the use of force (deadly or otherwise) then to me I'd say you are in the wrong.

4) Renee Good was in her car, prepared to move away after even telling the officer that she wasn't mad at him. Is the best course of action here simply to move away from her vehicle and see if she does drive away? Continuing to circle a vehicle and subsequently putting yourself in danger when the driver does attempt to move away does not feel like an excuse for the use of deadly force to me.

Fucking stupid country led by a dangerous and stupid man who will continue to reap the rewards for the society that they have created. The obsession with guns and the perceived weakness of backing down will ensure there will be tens of other situations just like this one. I'm convinced if you lived in the US they'd send a SWAT team to get a cat out of a tree.

They all seem to be ludicrously muscled up as well. They must spend most of their time polishing their weapons and then off to gym.

[WorcsWBA]

Noem et al are claiming that Ms Good was hassling agents *all day*, yet she was murdered at approx 9.35am after dropping her child off at school. MAGA morons will dutifully believe anything that they're told by their Dear Leader, his minions and his acolyte social media influencers, none of whom have the honesty to admit what they're able to see with their own eyes.

Even if she had been hassling agents (and there's been no evidence provided that she did), it's not punishable by death. In fact it's not even a felony, assuming those hassled weren't in any danger as a result of it. Of course ICE agents aren't able to enforce the law anyway for anything other than to deal with truly illegal immigrants.