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(03-07-2024, 08:20 AM)CA Baggie Wrote: I wouldn’t disagree that overall Furlong has had a better season, I’m not having that he’s in for the PotS award though.

And I find it odd you won’t accept that across the season they’ve both had some poor games, Furlong less so.

I haven’t said they’re, or particularly Townsend is rubbish.  Just that Reach struggling to being boxed up as a LB doesn’t make Townsend a better player. It makes him the best of what we’ve got, unless we go with wing backs.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

It's terms like "shockers" and "dreadful" I don't agree with, CA. They have both, of course had poor games. But neither, at any point have been "dreadful" or had a "shocker". I wouldn't have either scoring less than a 6 all season. 

Even though yesterday was DFs poorest game of the season in possession, he was only "dreadful" for probably 20 mins. Then he came up with really key contributions.
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(03-07-2024, 08:30 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:20 AM)CA Baggie Wrote: I wouldn’t disagree that overall Furlong has had a better season, I’m not having that he’s in for the PotS award though.

And I find it odd you won’t accept that across the season they’ve both had some poor games, Furlong less so.

I haven’t said they’re, or particularly Townsend is rubbish.  Just that Reach struggling to being boxed up as a LB doesn’t make Townsend a better player. It makes him the best of what we’ve got, unless we go with wing backs.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

It's terms like "shockers" and "dreadful" I don't agree with, CA. They have both, of course has poor games. But neither, at any point have been "dreadful" or had a "shocker". I wouldn't have either scoring less than a 6 all season. 

Even though yesterday was DFs poorest game of the season in possession, he was only "dreadful" for probably 20 mins. Then he came up with really key contributions.

So you agree with my assessment of Furlong’s performance last night then. Got there in the end. 

Depends on your definition of shocker I guess.  Townsend was ripped a new one at Southampton away, almost all their attacks came down our left and then he was hugely and directly at fault for their winner.  I also acknowledge he’s up against one of the best full backs in the league. But the reality was he couldn’t live with him.
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#23
(03-07-2024, 08:43 AM)CA Baggie Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:30 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:20 AM)CA Baggie Wrote: I wouldn’t disagree that overall Furlong has had a better season, I’m not having that he’s in for the PotS award though.

And I find it odd you won’t accept that across the season they’ve both had some poor games, Furlong less so.

I haven’t said they’re, or particularly Townsend is rubbish.  Just that Reach struggling to being boxed up as a LB doesn’t make Townsend a better player. It makes him the best of what we’ve got, unless we go with wing backs.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

It's terms like "shockers" and "dreadful" I don't agree with, CA. They have both, of course has poor games. But neither, at any point have been "dreadful" or had a "shocker". I wouldn't have either scoring less than a 6 all season. 

Even though yesterday was DFs poorest game of the season in possession, he was only "dreadful" for probably 20 mins. Then he came up with really key contributions.

So you agree with my assessment of Furlong’s performance last night then. Got there in the end. 

Depends on your definition of shocker I guess.  Townsend was ripped a new one at Southampton away, almost all their attacks came down our left and then he was hugely and directly at fault for their winner.  I also acknowledge he’s up against one of the best full backs in the league. But the reality was he couldn’t live with him.

I never disagreed with your assessment of last nights performance for DF, mate. But to suggest that it was a synopsis of his whole season is miles off. 

I guess its just what you expect your fullback to do defensively. For me you ALWAYS mark what's in front of you as they are your responsibility, especially from a cross from the opposite side. CT was putting pressure on the man between him and Kipre for Saints winner, as he should. But they had an overload, which is a team issue not a CT issue. So for me, he wasn't "hugely and directly" at fault. Also both goals came down our right not left channels.

Being a full back is the most thankless task on the pitch.
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(03-07-2024, 09:00 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:43 AM)CA Baggie Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:30 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:20 AM)CA Baggie Wrote: I wouldn’t disagree that overall Furlong has had a better season, I’m not having that he’s in for the PotS award though.

And I find it odd you won’t accept that across the season they’ve both had some poor games, Furlong less so.

I haven’t said they’re, or particularly Townsend is rubbish.  Just that Reach struggling to being boxed up as a LB doesn’t make Townsend a better player. It makes him the best of what we’ve got, unless we go with wing backs.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

It's terms like "shockers" and "dreadful" I don't agree with, CA. They have both, of course has poor games. But neither, at any point have been "dreadful" or had a "shocker". I wouldn't have either scoring less than a 6 all season. 

Even though yesterday was DFs poorest game of the season in possession, he was only "dreadful" for probably 20 mins. Then he came up with really key contributions.

So you agree with my assessment of Furlong’s performance last night then. Got there in the end. 

Depends on your definition of shocker I guess.  Townsend was ripped a new one at Southampton away, almost all their attacks came down our left and then he was hugely and directly at fault for their winner.  I also acknowledge he’s up against one of the best full backs in the league. But the reality was he couldn’t live with him.

I never disagreed with your assessment of last nights performance for DF, mate. But to suggest that it was a synopsis of his whole season is miles off. 

I guess its just what you expect your fullback to do defensively. For me you ALWAYS mark what's in front of you as they are your responsibility, especially from a cross from the opposite side. CT was putting pressure on the man between him and Kipre for Saints winner, as he should. But they had an overload, which is a team issue not a CT issue. So for me, he wasn't "hugely and directly" at fault. Also both goals came down our right not left channels.

Being a full back is the most thankless task on the pitch.

Especially if you play for West Brom where full backs are targetted for scapegoating second the step onto the pitch.

With extra special hate for left sided full backs.
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#25
Neither of them are Batson/Stathamesque thats faw shaw.

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(03-07-2024, 01:52 PM)yeoman lai Wrote: Neither of them are Batson/Stathamesque thats faw shaw.

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Or even Graham Harbey.
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#27
(03-07-2024, 12:03 PM)Birdman1811 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 09:00 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:43 AM)CA Baggie Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:30 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:20 AM)CA Baggie Wrote: I wouldn’t disagree that overall Furlong has had a better season, I’m not having that he’s in for the PotS award though.

And I find it odd you won’t accept that across the season they’ve both had some poor games, Furlong less so.

I haven’t said they’re, or particularly Townsend is rubbish.  Just that Reach struggling to being boxed up as a LB doesn’t make Townsend a better player. It makes him the best of what we’ve got, unless we go with wing backs.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

It's terms like "shockers" and "dreadful" I don't agree with, CA. They have both, of course has poor games. But neither, at any point have been "dreadful" or had a "shocker". I wouldn't have either scoring less than a 6 all season. 

Even though yesterday was DFs poorest game of the season in possession, he was only "dreadful" for probably 20 mins. Then he came up with really key contributions.

So you agree with my assessment of Furlong’s performance last night then. Got there in the end. 

Depends on your definition of shocker I guess.  Townsend was ripped a new one at Southampton away, almost all their attacks came down our left and then he was hugely and directly at fault for their winner.  I also acknowledge he’s up against one of the best full backs in the league. But the reality was he couldn’t live with him.

I never disagreed with your assessment of last nights performance for DF, mate. But to suggest that it was a synopsis of his whole season is miles off. 

I guess its just what you expect your fullback to do defensively. For me you ALWAYS mark what's in front of you as they are your responsibility, especially from a cross from the opposite side. CT was putting pressure on the man between him and Kipre for Saints winner, as he should. But they had an overload, which is a team issue not a CT issue. So for me, he wasn't "hugely and directly" at fault. Also both goals came down our right not left channels.

Being a full back is the most thankless task on the pitch.

Especially if you play for West Brom where full backs are targetted for scapegoating second the step onto the pitch.

With extra special hate for left sided full backs.

Can you tell me the other fullbacks who have been scapegoated over the last ten years or so as I can’t think of any. DF and CT have been poor previous seasons with DF being most improved this season. CT has been poor but has put in better performances over the last 3-4 games.
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#28
Why are full backs space goated so regularly? Even Clement, fantastic servant and player, was bemoaned at time. Although, I can't recall if that was when he playing centre half or if that was during his left back days, but horses for courses, I guess. Then you've got the likes of Mattock, Shorey, Popov and Cech.

It's weird. Is there something about the position that attracts criticism? I guess it's because you're basically a jack of all trades, and master of none. You have to be able to pass, tackle, defend, cross, overlap, and run yourself into the ground. It really is a thankless task. There's a reason I always preferred playing centre half.
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#29
(03-07-2024, 02:22 PM)Jerry Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 12:03 PM)Birdman1811 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 09:00 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:43 AM)CA Baggie Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:30 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote: It's terms like "shockers" and "dreadful" I don't agree with, CA. They have both, of course has poor games. But neither, at any point have been "dreadful" or had a "shocker". I wouldn't have either scoring less than a 6 all season. 

Even though yesterday was DFs poorest game of the season in possession, he was only "dreadful" for probably 20 mins. Then he came up with really key contributions.

So you agree with my assessment of Furlong’s performance last night then. Got there in the end. 

Depends on your definition of shocker I guess.  Townsend was ripped a new one at Southampton away, almost all their attacks came down our left and then he was hugely and directly at fault for their winner.  I also acknowledge he’s up against one of the best full backs in the league. But the reality was he couldn’t live with him.

I never disagreed with your assessment of last nights performance for DF, mate. But to suggest that it was a synopsis of his whole season is miles off. 

I guess its just what you expect your fullback to do defensively. For me you ALWAYS mark what's in front of you as they are your responsibility, especially from a cross from the opposite side. CT was putting pressure on the man between him and Kipre for Saints winner, as he should. But they had an overload, which is a team issue not a CT issue. So for me, he wasn't "hugely and directly" at fault. Also both goals came down our right not left channels.

Being a full back is the most thankless task on the pitch.

Especially if you play for West Brom where full backs are targetted for scapegoating second the step onto the pitch.

With extra special hate for left sided full backs.

Can you tell me the other fullbacks who have been scapegoated over the last ten years or so as I can’t think of any. DF and CT have been poor previous seasons with DF being most improved this season. CT has been poor but has put in better performances over the last 3-4 games.

Name any of our fullbacks, they've been spacegoated. It's a really common thing.
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(03-07-2024, 02:25 PM)AnelkasBeard Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 02:22 PM)Jerry Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 12:03 PM)Birdman1811 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 09:00 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:43 AM)CA Baggie Wrote: So you agree with my assessment of Furlong’s performance last night then. Got there in the end. 

Depends on your definition of shocker I guess.  Townsend was ripped a new one at Southampton away, almost all their attacks came down our left and then he was hugely and directly at fault for their winner.  I also acknowledge he’s up against one of the best full backs in the league. But the reality was he couldn’t live with him.

I never disagreed with your assessment of last nights performance for DF, mate. But to suggest that it was a synopsis of his whole season is miles off. 

I guess its just what you expect your fullback to do defensively. For me you ALWAYS mark what's in front of you as they are your responsibility, especially from a cross from the opposite side. CT was putting pressure on the man between him and Kipre for Saints winner, as he should. But they had an overload, which is a team issue not a CT issue. So for me, he wasn't "hugely and directly" at fault. Also both goals came down our right not left channels.

Being a full back is the most thankless task on the pitch.

Especially if you play for West Brom where full backs are targetted for scapegoating second the step onto the pitch.

With extra special hate for left sided full backs.

Can you tell me the other fullbacks who have been scapegoated over the last ten years or so as I can’t think of any. DF and CT have been poor previous seasons with DF being most improved this season. CT has been poor but has put in better performances over the last 3-4 games.

Name any of our fullbacks, they've been spacegoated. It's a really common thing.

So common then please name.
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