Ooh you SEND me

[richbaggie]

Ermmmmm

Not exactly the Gotcha Trump supporters think it is though is it?

[Birdman1811]

Pretty much no drugs are recommended during pregnancy. However Paracetamol is pretty much the only pain relief that has been shown to be safe to use so if needed can be taken. There is nothing more than a very weak correlative link to autism etc from it's use in pregnancy, and even when weakly filtered for genetic components, that link disappears.

Anyone defending the Orange diaper wearing, dementia riddled cunt on this and his brain worm addled, ex heroine addict secretary of health is literally too stupid to read basic statistics and shouldn't ever have any opinion taken seriously

[CarlosCorbewrong]

It’s endemic of the deeply rooted sexism that is prevalent within, not just the hard of thinking and right wing governments but also, regrettably, across healthcare systems in many countries across the world.

[Birdman1811]

It’s endemic of the deeply rooted sexism that is prevalent within, not just the hard of thinking and right wing governments but also, regrettably, across healthcare systems in many countries across the world.

Yep, sadly misogyny in healthcare is a massive problem.

[Lurker#3]

excuse my ignorance but I was always of the view that we are all neurodivergent in some way, else we would just be replica robots.

Nothing "causes" autism does it? We are just wired differently? Happy to be educated on here.

It is thought that between 20-25% of people will show some degree of neuro divergent tendancies. But as with everything else there is a sliding scale as to how said neuro divergence impacts the individuals ability to navigate society and life.

I would have thought that if a quarter of people show neurodivergent tendencies as it were, then likely they are in fact fairly typical of the population, does this not make them neurotypical i.e. not different from the the rest of us. I have met very few autistic people over the years ranging from severly disabled to those with genuine relationship/communication difficulties. Few of us would have even heard of autism/aspergers 25 years ago. The MMR vaccine has been around for over 50 years.

Not sure mate... I can only speak from experience as somebody who has ADHD, but was only diagnosed at Uni when I started to struggle academically. It wasn't anything to do with my ability to take in knowledge or to do any of the practical work or presenting but all of the stuff around it in terms of record keeping, written work, time keeping. It was only highlighted as my ability to mask my weaknesses were exposed when I left home and had more 'normal' tasks to complete independently. 

This has followed me into adult life. I have always underperformed professionally against where everybody thinks I should be. But that's because I have made the decision to buffer myself and give myself the space I need to not a burden on others around me. Neurotypical people dont have to make such allowances generally, or even have to consider it. 

My friends and family don't really understand it because I was always a perfectly capable youngster who covered up many of the things that were challenging me everyday.

Fwiw, though. A diagnosis of any type does not mean the world should treat me any differently, it is knowledge for me to use to manage my life in a way where I do not cause a problem to those around me. It's my cross to bear so to speak.

[Birdman1811]

Similar to me Lurker.

I was diagnosed when at uni in my 30's, tbh, doing Computer Science it wasn't noticeable strangely, but I did some work with other students for someone's PHD program and that made it quite obvious, as in the PHD candidate told me I was with the neuro diverse group and to see my Dr.

It certainly changed a lot of how I view myself and the world though knowing it about myself

[Derek Hardballs]

The problem with SEND as a term is it lumps everyone with huge and when I say huge I mean massive differences in physical, emotional and cognitive ability together. It’s not helpful for provision of resources, the needs of someone who is diagnosed as autistic but on the low end of the spectrum cannot possibly be the same as someone with complex needs and profound learning disability but that’s what the system and particular local government does.

[Lurker#3]

Similar to me Lurker.

I was diagnosed when at uni in my 30's, tbh, doing Computer Science it wasn't noticeable strangely, but I did some work with other students for someone's PHD program and that made it quite obvious, as in the PHD candidate told me I was with the neuro diverse group and to see my Dr.

It certainly changed a lot of how I view myself and the world though knowing it about myself

This is the most important thing, I think. As long as those views of yourself are more positive. 

I used to get really wound up by my relative tardiness, short term forgetfulness and temper. But I've realised generally they were all one and the same. And having my diagnosis gave me a reason to look into things and at myself and change path somewhat. I like to think I am the best version of myself now then ever, and most people around me do too, so that good enough for me. 

Anyway back to the thread. There's some tenuous links to neurodivrrsuty and paracetamol, but as Birdy quite rightly says when examined and peer reviewed they quickly become less robust. We are seeing a rise in diagnoses because it's a hot topic at the moment. Are some getting diagnosed for things lazily and incorrectly? Yes. But frankly it doesn't really matter, very few people get benefits for Neurodiverse reasons, only those with really debilitating versions of their condition.