Aston Tel Aviv Protests
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(01-14-2026, 02:20 PM)Protheroe Wrote: "The home secretary has declared she no longer has confidence in the chief constable of West Midlands police following a “damning” report into the decision to ban Israeli fans from travelling to Birmingham.

In a Commons statement, Shabana Mahmood said the report from His Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Constabulary Andy Cooke identified widespread failing at the force headed by Craig Guildford.

But she told MPs that under the law she did not have the power to sack him – as this is down to the local police and crime commissioner.

“The interim report from Sir Andy is damning,” she said. “There is no other way to describe it.”


The report found West Midlands police overstated the threat posed by Maccabi Tel Aviv fans while understating those posed to fans if they travelled to the area, she added."


The Home Secretary knows more than most about Islamist extremists in Birmingham than most having successfully faced them down at the last election - and the most disgusting behaviour at an election count I've ever witnessed. 

Thank goodness the PCC position is being discontinued. The Chief Constable has to go now, and take the spurious "Safety Committee" with him.

(01-14-2026, 02:12 PM)Squid Wrote:
(01-14-2026, 01:12 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(01-14-2026, 12:49 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: I think all of this AI/Google crap is missing the point, and as bumbling and stupid as the CC looks the sad reality of this situation is that he was damned if he did, and damned if he didn’t. From where I sit, at least, anyway.

The gigantic elephant in the room is the (now global) situation itself. From fan-bans in a craphole to a writer’s festival in Adelaide having to be cancelled… the detail is so often being framed as the devil when it is simply and abjectly not the case.

Couldn't agree more. There's plenty who deny the existence of the elephant, despite it trampling all over the lives of young people in Iran.

Proth - you have now spent years denying the horrors that the Israeli state is inflicting upon Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Occasionally, you will claim that babies and children being bombed in their homes is "FAFO" or that there are "degrees of innocence."

Hamas is a violent offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Its terror tactics are pretty much wholly financed and faciltated by Iran. Gazans know exactly what Hamas is yet once upon a time Gazans voted Hamas into government. Did they expect peace? Did they expect a two-state solution?  Did they expect no reaction to Oct 7th? So yes, there are degrees of innocence.

I don't think there's any doubt that Israel's response is disproportionate. But to be fair they do seem to have grabbed the opportunity Hamas gave them to pretty much decapitate Iranian influence in Gaza and everywhere else.

An election conducted twenty years ago makes it ok for Palestinian children to bombed and starved and also somehow less innocent? 

And as you've been told repeatedly on here:

Nobody voted for Hamas in the West Bank and the Israeli State bulldozes their houses and allows Israeli settlers to murder them with impunity. 

Besides which, deciding that it's ok to kill people because how they voted in an election is a very dangerous argument. It's the sort of thing Osama Bin Laden used to say, but maybe he's an inspirational figure to you now.
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Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Mouse - 11-06-2025, 05:16 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 11-06-2025, 05:22 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Tom Joad 25 - 11-06-2025, 05:46 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by CarlosCorbewrong - 11-06-2025, 07:07 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 11-06-2025, 05:48 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 11-06-2025, 06:47 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 11-06-2025, 08:56 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 11-06-2025, 09:11 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 11-06-2025, 07:01 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 11-06-2025, 07:25 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 11-06-2025, 07:57 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 11-06-2025, 07:59 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Mouse - 11-06-2025, 08:06 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 11-06-2025, 08:17 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 11-06-2025, 08:24 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 11-06-2025, 08:31 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 11-06-2025, 08:31 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-07-2026, 05:21 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-07-2026, 06:52 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-07-2026, 08:49 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-07-2026, 08:56 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-07-2026, 08:52 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-08-2026, 12:14 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-08-2026, 10:50 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Logic1 - 01-08-2026, 10:58 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-08-2026, 11:20 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 11:53 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-08-2026, 12:53 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Tom Joad 25 - 01-08-2026, 03:54 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-08-2026, 04:34 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by TETLEY74 - 01-08-2026, 07:27 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 01:28 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-08-2026, 01:38 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 02:21 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-08-2026, 03:47 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-08-2026, 01:44 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 03:59 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-08-2026, 04:10 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 04:19 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-08-2026, 04:32 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 04:52 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-08-2026, 05:45 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 06:35 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-08-2026, 06:42 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-08-2026, 06:47 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-08-2026, 07:33 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-09-2026, 06:25 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-09-2026, 08:34 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-09-2026, 08:43 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Tom Joad 25 - 01-09-2026, 10:22 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Fido - 01-09-2026, 10:45 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Borin' Baggie - 01-09-2026, 12:56 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-09-2026, 09:06 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Baggiejacko - 01-09-2026, 10:45 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-09-2026, 11:16 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-09-2026, 11:51 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 01-09-2026, 02:24 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-10-2026, 09:54 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-11-2026, 08:13 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-11-2026, 11:59 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-11-2026, 03:46 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Hudds2 - 01-11-2026, 04:37 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Borin' Baggie - 01-11-2026, 06:17 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-11-2026, 09:24 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-12-2026, 08:32 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-12-2026, 10:13 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-12-2026, 11:31 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-12-2026, 12:42 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-12-2026, 12:45 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-12-2026, 12:52 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-12-2026, 12:55 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-12-2026, 12:59 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-12-2026, 01:01 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-12-2026, 05:27 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-13-2026, 08:57 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-13-2026, 09:22 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-13-2026, 10:01 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Fido - 01-13-2026, 01:00 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 01-12-2026, 05:45 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by baggy1 - 01-12-2026, 06:04 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Borin' Baggie - 01-13-2026, 04:13 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-14-2026, 09:36 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-14-2026, 11:20 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-14-2026, 11:36 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 01-14-2026, 11:26 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by HawkingsHalfpint - 01-14-2026, 12:49 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-14-2026, 01:12 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 01-14-2026, 02:06 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-14-2026, 02:12 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-14-2026, 02:20 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by tHEgLASSdOORS - 01-14-2026, 02:36 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-14-2026, 02:44 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-14-2026, 02:44 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 01-14-2026, 03:59 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pontificator - 01-14-2026, 05:15 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-14-2026, 04:21 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 01-14-2026, 04:28 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pipkins - 01-14-2026, 05:40 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-16-2026, 03:09 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Shabby Russian - 01-16-2026, 04:06 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-16-2026, 04:30 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Jacko - 01-16-2026, 04:36 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Pipkins - 01-16-2026, 06:54 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-16-2026, 09:31 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-17-2026, 12:49 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-17-2026, 09:57 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-17-2026, 12:39 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-18-2026, 08:03 AM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Squid - 01-18-2026, 01:11 PM
RE: Aston Tel Aviv Protests - by Protheroe - 01-18-2026, 02:08 PM

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