Keef

[Derek Hardballs]

It's not an obsession it's just pointing out your nonsense. 

Almost everything you say this Labour government should be doing, the Labour party 15-19 campaigned on. Whether you explicitly post policy or not if you can't see the connection and the obvious contradiction then it's a pointless discussion and just confirms you're happiest in your role of professional complainer.

Ted just take a look at who the Labour Party have just elected as Deputy Leader and what she has been saying for the last few months, it aligns with what I’ve been saying for over a year. The only people out of touch with genuine Labour Party members is those who are continuing to think Blue Labour are the answer and what people want.


Corbyn was and always will be unelectable thanks to the baggage he and momentum brought to the party, that doesn’t mean the party had to lurch to the right to the extent it alienates thousands of its core voters and is pretty much indistinguishable currently from Sunak’s led Conservative Party. When people said they wanted change they didn’t just mean the fucking badge.

Not just Corbyn, Ed Miliband was soundly beaten in 2015 too. Starmer's job isn't in danger because he's too right wing. It's because he's seen as indecisive and and has the political instincts of a squashed hedgehog.

More than half the Labour Party membership disagrees, which is why Lucy Powell is now the Deputy Leader and thousands have left to join other party’s. This is about his poor political instincts, which are spectacularly poor, aptly shown by him trying to win over Reform and Conservative voters whilst ignoring and taking for granted the votes of those left of centre. 

Currently he’s tanking in the polls and that’s really not just because of ‘optics’.

Do the Labour Party membership win elections now? Because they didn't in 15 - 19, as has been pointed out several times.

Also, look at the voting results:
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"Powell took 87,407 votes, nearly 14,000 votes ahead of Phillipson, on a turnout of 16.6%." - BBC News. Compare that to Rayner who got 228,944 (52.6% turnout). It's not really indicating a groundswell of support for the Left wing of Labour.

Starmer is indeed tanking in the polls, but there is nothing whatsoever to indicate that a move leftwards would increase his polling, when he's already being criticised for being weak and indecisive.

There is even weaker support for the Blue Labour side of the party amongst its members by that logic. Squid if you think trying to woo Reform and Tory voters at the expense of its core vote is the answer then carry on with Starmer and co and see where it leaves the party at the next election. The only way it’ll cling to power is buddying up with the Greens and or Lib Dem’s. 

There is zero evidence that if Labour move even further right, which your post implies they need to do win, that it will work. It’ll just mean Labour stand for absolutely naff all which is what they are already in danger of. Then the question will be what’s the point if Labour?