Trump

[Birdman1811]

Trump offered people who've seen their groceries increase by 22% something. Harris campaigned on the fact that Trump = bad. We've seen it here as well. Offer people something, rather than just saying the other side are criminals because when people are struggling to make ends meet they've proven once again that they couldn't give a shit about the moral positions of those in charge.

Not totally true, her policies were far better detailed than anything put out by Trump, Trump always campaigns on sound bites, insulting people, just ranting with no real messages at all. Problem.is, people, and the media seem to want to just have a mud slinging match so that's what's always reported. And Trump gets away with a lot, he's been mostly incoherent last few weeks, but mentions of dementia, compared to Biden for example. 

Trump would have had the exact same inflation had he won in 2020, it takes almost no reading to work that out, this is what I mean by frustration, people just don't seem to actually use the brains that have. 

Trump hasn't offered anything, he did nothing on the border, in fact, he opposed the bill agreed by all parts of the senate to fix it because he wanted to use the border in his election campaign. He tells people, in clear language, he just talks nonsense knowing people lap it up, and people do. I don't understand it. 

The supposed patriots in the US, now love Russia, and Putin, literally their mortal enemy only a few years ago, and don't see it's just been because of ridiculous propaganda. It just frustrates me so much.

MAGA has destroyed so much of America, where they had civilised discourse between opposing sides, where there was a grown up, responsible democracy, is now hatred and grown adults shouting moronic phrases at each other. Intelligence is now disliked, the stupidest get the loudest voice.

It's not so much I hate Trump, I can't stand him, hates a very strong term, but I do hate what he represents and what he has caused and built.

But did she actually communicate the content of those policies?

No.

All that cut through was Orange Man Bad and that's not going to do much, when people have already been through a Trump presidency and plenty clearly didn't think it was that bad in terms of their day-to-day lives. How things look to us, clearly isn't the daily lived experience of many Americans and not just white Americans either. 


I'm seeing far too much finger-pointing at the American electorate here and elsewhere and far too little acknowledgement that the Democrats ran a truly appalling campaign. From letting a man with significant neurological decline stand to not holding a primary, meaning that a perennially unpopular politician led an utterly tin-eared campaign. 

You cannot shame and insult people into voting for you. As for people acting shocked when people vote based on what they feel suits their pockets, it's rarely been different.

No I will point fingers.

I'm done with idiots running the asylum.

The campaign wasn't good, and Biden takes massive blame for standing for a second term, he promised to stand down after one, didn't, and that helped cause the cluster fuck. But she did communicate policies, the media never reported on that bit, they just wanted the bit where she spoke about Trump, media turned the entire election into being about Trump, because it gets clicks. Policies take time to read and digest, and people don't want that anymore, they want easy, quick, nothing that ever challenges their mind, opinions or beliefs in any way.

I'm done being nice to them, trying to understand them, it doesn't work either, and they still get to be hateful, small minded and ignorant, so maybe it is time to start being the same back at them. I have friends in the US, a lot in fact, some old school Republicans that detest MAGA, A MAGA fan who quite frankly is the stupidest, most gullible cunt I've ever met, a few trans folk, somehow our gaming clan became a bit of a safe haven for trans people, no idea why, we didn't do anything special for it. 

Oh no, their world has changed, and they're scared and worried, well boo fucking hoo, the world changes, nothing stays the same, grow up and deal with it. Children deal with change better than these supposed grown adults. I'm just tired of excuses to basically say they just want to see white straight people with women knowing their place blah blah blah and disabled nicely locked away from sight.

And if I sound bitter, and angry and oh no, hate doesn't beat hate bullshit, well nice doesn't work on these mono syllabic cunts so may as well enjoy insulting them.

Done with being nice and fair

Except that's not why they voted for Trump, especially when it has been a massive swing by Latino voters that has won Trump the election.


You are raging against something you have created in your own mind and it's no better than when people here raged against people not voting for Corbyn when it was obvious to anyone with eyes that he was unelectable. 

Kamala Harris has never shown any sign of having the level of popularity required to win a presidential election. Not in the 2020 primaries, not as a VP, not as a candidate. 

As for the media, they helped Trump, but not in the way you think. I recommend reading this:

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/big...to-save-us

Ted Maul is right, you don't lose that badly, by that much because people are stupid.

No, but there is a lot of what I say.

I don't understand the Latinis vote at all, but I don't know any of them to speak to them to really understand why, if it's the economy, I've explained why it makes no sense still.