11-19-2021, 12:02 PM
(11-19-2021, 11:39 AM)baggy1 Wrote: You're conflating two very separate issues bb - the government statements by Hancock, Johnson et al are meaningless words spouted by idiots. I truly hope that the electorate remember the ineffective leadership through the campaign and punish them at the next opportunity. You are giving a bunch of morons credit for a strategy to divide and rule, they really haven't got the nous to plan that to get them to success.
Then there is common sense, you keep quoting % figures because it makes the numbers look smaller. 20% of the available population not having had a 2nd jab is 11M people, that is a shed load of people that could help the situation but haven't yet. Of them there will be a percentage that can't have the jab for good reason, reaction to the 1st being a very good reason, and then there will be some that can't be arsed and that is the group that are causing the pain point. Whether we agree on this point we do need to get more jabbed to provide more protection - we have good protection with the jabs so far, whilst we are still learning we simply have to get as many done as possible. Relying on either jab or antibodies is simply not enough, we need jab as a minimum and if we have antibodies from infection then better still, not something that is to be used in place of.
As it stands there is no reason to see that we will follow the steps we are seeing in Europe, but if I were governing I would be closing the borders now and having a big push to get the 2nd jabs number up and as many people have boosters as possible.
This is a key point. I can't remember who it was but I saw an article the other day stating that people who have had adverse reactions to the 1st jab or a medical exemption would not be included under any covid passport/vaccine passport scheme. The right way to go imo.

