11-25-2020, 11:23 AM
(11-25-2020, 10:25 AM)baggiebuckster Wrote: I know people have always died at home - I said that 140 excess deaths a day are happening at home.
People have always died in hospitals too but you were referring to excess deaths which is what I am stating.
If 140 excess deaths a day are at home then that means that half of that excess 2000 figure are people who most likely did not die of Covid.
Why would the Government cover up the other figures you ask? I never said that they were but they are not the most honest Govt we have ever had are they? Doctors, nurses ,coroners etc don't have to be 'in on it'. If someone dies in hospital and has a positive test then they go in the stats as you know. My Dad fell down the stairs 4 weeks ago and fractured his spine - he was in a bad way for a few days. He was tested whilst in hospital - if that test had been positive he would have been included as 'a covid hospital case' where the truth was he was actually being treated for his spine.
In know this to be the case in many personal contacts I have.
Baggy1 calling me desperate is a tragic irony as I asked some simple questions at the top about that he won't answer.
The fact is there's no way at this moment that all, if any, excess deaths are OF Covid. You would literally see symptomatic people every where you went based on the "case" rate. We don't. Also the mass testing in Liverpool has completely disproved that the virus is rife and symptomatic.
Nobody is arguing that lots died tragically in the spring - many due to being sent back to die at home or care home without treatment. I am not sure any of the data currently shows that excess deaths are from covid. That's all I asked baggy1 to confirm.
To believe this statement: "That all excess deaths, where they died 28 days within a positive test from covid, are all deaths from Covid" is either to wilfully misinterpret the data for another means or to be genuinely naive.