UK Covid death toll

[billybassett]

This is interesting:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gover...2020-09-25

No correlation, in t his dataset, between a country's lockdown stringency and its mortality impact.

I've only sense checked it but I know Argentina and Israel were hard lockers and Belarus and Sweden as we know less so.

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This gets circular as an argument and I would say that there will be a potential for both of those to be included in excess deaths - again why I try to stick to the excess deaths figure because without Covid those excess deaths wouldn't have occurred (directly or indirectly). And we've discussed this before and I still haven't seen any argument against locking down in March, it was needed otherwise the 1st wave would have kept increasing - the deaths only started falling 3 weeks after lockdown.

It's too early to say if the 2nd wave is because of covid deaths but it does appear to be happening, whatever the reason - denying covid won't make one ounce of difference to that fact. We just have to wait and see how much of an impact it will have.

And I have never quoted the figures of covid deaths in anything I have posted btw.

I'm not denying Covid. That would be like denying flu. It's happening because it's flu season.