Brexit Party
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(07-03-2019, 08:07 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 07:07 AM)I John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote: Derek, you can’t stick photos on here and say “ I’ll just leave this here” then say it is not your view. Clearly there are plenty on here that took the inference you know you were making. You say you have not personally insulted or denigrated some on here but, again, I say you do. Just because you haven’t written ‘JOK you are an unintelligent, selfish racist’ or ‘Pige you’re a Nazi’, you have. Because we may have voted differently to you or hold opposing opinions you make sweeping generalisations that those that voted leave or indeed support a different political party are ‘racist’, ‘Nazis’, ‘selfish’, ‘uncaring’ and elitist. Just look at all your posts. You call us all those things by implication or association. You know you do.
As regards comparing Brexit Party MEPs with the NSDAP, it’s not just 80 year old and now defunct political parties that are Anti-Semitic is it?
And just so you can accuse me of ‘Whataboutery’, was it acceptable for Labour activists to dishonour a minutes silence for Tessa Jowell because they didn’t agree with her stand on some issues? Is a bunch of senior Labour Party front benchers attending an Anti Trump rally being very respectful of the office of the President of the United states. I would suggest not. And neither is Corbyn refusing the invitation to the state banquet.
The, not very liberal, Liberal Democrats (one of your lovely ‘centre ground’ parties) wrote an open letter stating that Trump “was not welcome”. Is that respectful of a sovereign power? But I suppose you consider some political gestures are more acceptable by who does them.
Let’s not forget that the E.U., however much some of the big wigs at the top think or wish is was, is NOT a sovereign state. It is basically a quango.

Those that took offence i will apologise to. It was not a personal dig at anyone. However I’m not going to censor what is already being discussed by thousands of people all day on other platforms. If the childish protest hadn’t occurred in a parliament building there would be nothing to compare or talk about. It was a crass thing to do.  

The symbolism of the images were widely discussed and shared on social media yesterday as it was discussed at length on LBC radio and the BBC notably online. Should I have pretended they weren’t made so as not to offend others? Did the Brexit Party MEPs care about others opinions, feelings on the matter? Did the Lib Dem’s? I didn’t instigate the childish gesture that the Brexit Party made and I didn’t make the comparison, I simply shared it. After the discussion had started on this thread. As I said the language and symbolism that the Brexit party has used is a weird mix of conflicting messages and some of it harks back to war time. Why use air raid sirens and black out lighting in your rally in 2019 for example? You can’t use those types of symbols and forms of protests and then moan when they are misinterpreted. 

The Lib Dem’s T-shirt’s are stupid and childish as well. That campaign slogan is cringeworthy but reflects where we are as a nation currently. Neither side came out of yesterday’s proceedings with any credit. As for Labour you’re going to have to find one post of mine where I have supported anything that a Corbyn led Labour Party has done. 

One things for sure it’s going to a lot of work to bring this country back together again.
Can you hear a cock crowing near you? You’re a bit like the apostle Peter. You still deny that you share the view the inference of those two photos suggests. If I read or saw something on (anti)-social media with which I disagreed, I would not repost it. Unless of coarse you aspire to the title of biggest WUM on here.
As for siting the B.B.C and L.B.C. as justification or affirmation that a subject is Overly of interest to the majority, you couldn’t find two bigger pro E.U. organisations.
I can’t quite understand your logic on the Second World War iconography. Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Britain stand up to the Nazis during that war? Perhaps reflecting a time when Britain stood against an undemocratic and bullying regime is apt for them. If you, sorry, those that posted those photos have “misinterpreted” those “symbols” then it is you (sorry again) they that have it wrong. You can’t say evoking the war time spirit and a fight for freedom and democracy in anyway suggest a pro Fascist stand.
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Without getting into the Nazi / freedom figher discussions - The Brexit party are a bunch of clowns that are just there to get affirmation and pats on the backs from their supporters. Surely if they oppose the institution so much it would be better to simply not turn up. And here's an idea - the wages and expenses that they are welching off the taxpayer to carry out these stunts would be better paid back to the exchequer if they really believe in the propaganda they peddle. Now that would be a proper statement of intent.
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#63
Those of us born in the UK who have lived well into our middle years during the post WW2 era have, in the main, been extremely fortunate; we have enjoyed (again, in the main) peace, prosperity and opportunity to a far greater extent than any previous generation. The same can be said of much of northern and western Europe - a part of the world previously almost permanently at war with itself for centuries. It would take some stretch of the imagination to pretend that the EEC/EU, for all its imperfections, has played no part in maintaining that stability.

The EU isn't the axis powers and Nigel Farage isn't some latter day incarnation of Churchill: he is, at best, a high profile heckler - shouting out random promises for which he knows he will never be accountable. Something similar can be said of the likes of Mark Francois, constantly harking back to how 'we' won a war which had already been over for 20 years when he was born.

If we're leaving, then fine. Not that I feel fine about it: I'm more convinced now than I was on the morning when I put my cross in the 'Remain' box that even the best possible settlement will supersede Labour's 1983 manifesto as 'the longest suicide note in history'. But we've done that to death already...

If we must go though, let's at least leave with a bit of politeness and dignity: the other 27 member states are not our enemies.
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(07-03-2019, 07:57 PM)Ossian Wrote: Those of us born in the UK who have lived well into our middle years during the post WW2 era have, in the main, been extremely fortunate; we have enjoyed (again, in the main) peace, prosperity and opportunity to a far greater extent than any previous generation. The same can be said of much of northern and western Europe - a part of the world previously almost permanently at war with itself for centuries. It would take some stretch of the imagination to pretend that the EEC/EU, for all its imperfections, has played no part in maintaining that stability.

The EU isn't the axis powers and Nigel Farage isn't some latter day incarnation of Churchill: he is, at best, a high profile heckler - shouting out random promises for which he knows he will never be accountable. Something similar can be said of the likes of Mark Francois, constantly harking back to how 'we' won a war which had already been over for 20 years when he was born.

If we're leaving, then fine. Not that I feel fine about it: I'm more convinced now than I was on the morning when I put my cross in the 'Remain' box that even the best possible settlement will supersede Labour's 1983 manifesto as 'the longest suicide note in history'. But we've done that to death already...

If we must go though, let's at least leave with a bit of politeness and dignity: the other 27 member states are not our enemies.
Completely agree. The antics of yesterday were cringe worthy and embarrassing to say the least.
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#65
John Osborne’s Knuckle
Derek Hardballs
I John Osborne’s Knuckle
Derek, you can’t stick photos on here and say “ I’ll just leave this here” then say it is not your view. Clearly there are plenty on here that took the inference you know you were making. You say you have not personally insulted or denigrated some on here but, again, I say you do. Just because you haven’t written ‘JOK you are an unintelligent, selfish racist’ or ‘Pige you’re a Nazi’, you have. Because we may have voted differently to you or hold opposing opinions you make sweeping generalisations that those that voted leave or indeed support a different political party are ‘racist’, ‘Nazis’, ‘selfish’, ‘uncaring’ and elitist. Just look at all your posts. You call us all those things by implication or association. You know you do.
As regards comparing Brexit Party MEPs with the NSDAP, it’s not just 80 year old and now defunct political parties that are Anti-Semitic is it?
And just so you can accuse me of ‘Whataboutery’, was it acceptable for Labour activists to dishonour a minutes silence for Tessa Jowell because they didn’t agree with her stand on some issues? Is a bunch of senior Labour Party front benchers attending an Anti Trump rally being very respectful of the office of the President of the United states. I would suggest not. And neither is Corbyn refusing the invitation to the state banquet.
The, not very liberal, Liberal Democrats (one of your lovely ‘centre ground’ parties) wrote an open letter stating that Trump “was not welcome”. Is that respectful of a sovereign power? But I suppose you consider some political gestures are more acceptable by who does them.
Let’s not forget that the E.U., however much some of the big wigs at the top think or wish is was, is NOT a sovereign state. It is basically a quango.

Those that took offence i will apologise to. It was not a personal dig at anyone. However I’m not going to censor what is already being discussed by thousands of people all day on other platforms. If the childish protest hadn’t occurred in a parliament building there would be nothing to compare or talk about. It was a crass thing to do.

The symbolism of the images were widely discussed and shared on social media yesterday as it was discussed at length on LBC radio and the BBC notably online. Should I have pretended they weren’t made so as not to offend others? Did the Brexit Party MEPs care about others opinions, feelings on the matter? Did the Lib Dem’s? I didn’t instigate the childish gesture that the Brexit Party made and I didn’t make the comparison, I simply shared it. After the discussion had started on this thread. As I said the language and symbolism that the Brexit party has used is a weird mix of conflicting messages and some of it harks back to war time. Why use air raid sirens and black out lighting in your rally in 2019 for example? You can’t use those types of symbols and forms of protests and then moan when they are misinterpreted.

The Lib Dem’s T-shirt’s are stupid and childish as well. That campaign slogan is cringeworthy but reflects where we are as a nation currently. Neither side came out of yesterday’s proceedings with any credit. As for Labour you’re going to have to find one post of mine where I have supported anything that a Corbyn led Labour Party has done.

One things for sure it’s going to a lot of work to bring this country back together again.
Can you hear a cock crowing near you? You’re a bit like the apostle Peter. You still deny that you share the view the inference of those two photos suggests. If I read or saw something on (anti)-social media with which I disagreed, I would not repost it. Unless of coarse you aspire to the title of biggest WUM on here.
As for siting the B.B.C and L.B.C. as justification or affirmation that a subject is Overly of interest to the majority, you couldn’t find two bigger pro E.U. organisations.
I can’t quite understand your logic on the Second World War iconography. Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Britain stand up to the Nazis during that war? Perhaps reflecting a time when Britain stood against an undemocratic and bullying regime is apt for them. If you, sorry, those that posted those photos have “misinterpreted” those “symbols” then it is you (sorry again) they that have it wrong. You can’t say evoking the war time spirit and a fight for freedom and democracy in anyway suggest a pro Fascist stand.

A few points...

If you do a childish crass stunt ahem sorry protest and it has similarities to fascists in the German Reichstag whose fault is that? Were they not aware of history? I imagine it was an unfortunate coincidence but given the combative and divisive nature of the party are you surprised that their critics will use it against them? Perhaps they would have been better not taking their seats, not taking a wage and making a proper statement of intent.

My opinion of the Brexit Party particularly it’s leader is it / he is a nationalist populist. In exactly the same mould as Trump.

Do I think the party is facist? No, but I do think it has some members that are very right wing and not people I would get along with? Yes. However I wouldn’t get along with extreme left wing people either they are the flip side of the coin. Emotionally charged politics without any policies other than the obvious, driven by ideology isn’t my cup of tea.

The pictures I put up to generate debate. I knew some would go overboard but I like to listen to lots of arguments from all sides of the debate heck I’ve even listened to the Farage show on that left of centre (arf) station LBC. If you don’t listen to the opposition then you aren’t really arguing your points properly.

The Brexit Party referencing the war years is pathetic, it’s 2019, we aren’t at war, we need good relations with the E.U.

The BBC is accused of being right wing by the militant left and the reverse by the militant right. As for LBC the station has Nigel Farage, Nick Farrari. (Spelling) and Jacob Reece Mogg as presenters bastions of staying in the E.U. and left of centre ffs!
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(07-03-2019, 01:02 PM)John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote: As for siting the B.B.C and L.B.C. as justification or affirmation that a subject is Overly of interest to the majority, you couldn’t find two bigger pro E.U. organisations.

That's the BBC that's afraid to publish any criticism of Brexit and deflect from market uncertainty caused by Brexit as being a leading cause of stockpiling which artificially inflated our PMI, as well as letting utter nonsense from leavers go without challenge on the basis of "balance"? And LBC who's lineup is dominated by Brexiteers including Nigel Farage? Pro-EU my arse, the latter is the government mouthpiece which is pro-Brexit and the latter indulges in the fantasy of leavers.

And the EU is democratic, what people need to realise is that European democracy covers multiple countries, not just their back garden. It's not without flaws, especially with regards to the comission, but it's perfectly democratic. It's entire process is built on multiple layers of democracy in an attempt to balance the power of the EU organisations and member states.
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(07-03-2019, 08:44 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 01:02 PM)John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote: As for siting the B.B.C and L.B.C. as justification or affirmation that a subject is Overly of interest to the majority, you couldn’t find two bigger pro E.U. organisations.

That's the BBC that's afraid to publish any criticism of Brexit and deflect from market uncertainty caused by Brexit as being a leading cause of stockpiling which artificially inflated our PMI, as well as letting utter nonsense from leavers go without challenge on the basis of "balance"? And LBC who's lineup is dominated by Brexiteers including Nigel Farage? Pro-EU my arse, the latter is the government mouthpiece which is pro-Brexit and the latter indulges in the fantasy of leavers.

And the EU is democratic, what people need to realise is that European democracy covers multiple countries, not just their back garden. It's not without flaws, especially with regards to the comission, but it's perfectly democratic. It's entire process is built on multiple layers of democracy in an attempt to balance the power of the EU organisations and member states.

“The BBC that’s afraid to publish any criticism of Brexit”. Really?
Like this article for instance? “Ffs”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47055188

On Monday 18th Feb., Honda announced that it was closing its Swindon plant with the loss of up to 3,500 British jobs, the full reasons for which would be explained later. Without waiting for that explanation, the BBC decided that the whole thing was due to Brexit despite the vice president of Honda Europe saying: “This is not a Brexit-related issue.” It’s web article even referenced Sky News, a rival organisation, to point the finger at Brexit and included a link to a story about Nissan worded “Nissan ALSO cited Brexit”

Between September 2002 and June 2015, News-watch monitored Radio 4's Today programme for 324 weeks, amounting to 1,944 editions. There were 232 hours of EU-related feature coverage, and 5,113 guest speakers contributed to the EU debate.
"174 speakers (3.4%) were identifiable advocates of withdrawal. Of this group, only five speakers (0.1% of the total EU contributors) were left-wing advocates of Brexit." Despite some four million Labour supportsvoting leave.

Newsbeat is BBC Radio 1's flagship news programme aimed at a young audience. The News-watch survey, of the ten weeks of the campaign, showed there was a failure to meet the strict 'broad balance' requirement. There were 1.5 times more Remain than Leave supporters. (Might explain why many younger people voted remain)

BBC2's Newsnight broadcast on 23 January 2013, the day David Cameron announced an in/out referendum on our membership of the EU. The BBC Trust argued that the announcement was not a 'decisive moment' in the EU debate, and therefore the imbalance of 18 pro-EU speakers to one withdrawalist was acceptable

The Institute of Economic Affairs research on the BBC’s Question Time Brexit bias has found the programme is heavily weighted towards Remain. The IEA’s research found that 69% of guests in the 18 months after the Brexit referendum had supported the Remain campaign

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one.
BBC radio’s own “Feedback” programme was inundated with complaints that The News Quiz was totally filled with panelists to “Lampoon” Brexit voters. When was the last time there was a joke against remainers heard on Mock the Week or any comedy or light entertainment programme?

This might give a little explanation:
A spokesman for BBC Media action told Express.co.uk: “In the financial year 2017-18, BBC Media Action received approximately £3.1million from the European Commission.

In 2015, the Daily Telegraph reported that BBC Media Action received £9.3million between 2011 and 2014, much of it to deliver the EU's "European Neighbourhood Policy".
According to the publication, EU officials described the sum as a "broad political strategy", designed to strengthen the "prosperity, stability and security of Europe's neighbourhood in order to avoid any dividing lines between the enlarged EU and its direct neighbours".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/112500...rendum-spt

When was the last time you voted for the President of the EU commission or the President of the EU council? The bodies that actually decide and make EU law with MEPs only able to question them and make “suggestions”. MEPs don’t even have an input in deciding the candidates short list that they vote on for those two influential positions.
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#68
(07-04-2019, 07:43 AM)John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 08:44 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 01:02 PM)John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote: As for siting the B.B.C and L.B.C. as justification or affirmation that a subject is Overly of interest to the majority, you couldn’t find two bigger pro E.U. organisations.

That's the BBC that's afraid to publish any criticism of Brexit and deflect from market uncertainty caused by Brexit as being a leading cause of stockpiling which artificially inflated our PMI, as well as letting utter nonsense from leavers go without challenge on the basis of "balance"? And LBC who's lineup is dominated by Brexiteers including Nigel Farage? Pro-EU my arse, the latter is the government mouthpiece which is pro-Brexit and the latter indulges in the fantasy of leavers.

And the EU is democratic, what people need to realise is that European democracy covers multiple countries, not just their back garden. It's not without flaws, especially with regards to the comission, but it's perfectly democratic. It's entire process is built on multiple layers of democracy in an attempt to balance the power of the EU organisations and member states.

“The BBC that’s afraid to publish any criticism of Brexit”. Really?
Like this article for instance? “Ffs”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47055188

On Monday 18th Feb., Honda announced that it was closing its Swindon plant with the loss of up to 3,500 British jobs, the full reasons for which would be explained later. Without waiting for that explanation, the BBC decided that the whole thing was due to Brexit despite the vice president of Honda Europe saying: “This is not a Brexit-related issue.” It’s web article even referenced Sky News, a rival organisation, to point the finger at Brexit and included a link to a story about Nissan worded “Nissan ALSO cited Brexit”

Between September 2002 and June 2015, News-watch monitored Radio 4's Today programme for 324 weeks, amounting to 1,944 editions. There were 232 hours of EU-related feature coverage, and 5,113 guest speakers contributed to the EU debate.
"174 speakers (3.4%) were identifiable advocates of withdrawal. Of this group, only five speakers (0.1% of the total EU contributors) were left-wing advocates of Brexit." Despite some four million Labour supportsvoting leave.

Newsbeat is BBC Radio 1's flagship news programme aimed at a young audience. The News-watch survey, of the ten weeks of the campaign, showed there was a failure to meet the strict 'broad balance' requirement. There were 1.5 times more Remain than Leave supporters. (Might explain why many younger people voted remain)

BBC2's Newsnight broadcast on 23 January 2013, the day David Cameron announced an in/out referendum on our membership of the EU. The BBC Trust argued that the announcement was not a 'decisive moment' in the EU debate, and therefore the imbalance of 18 pro-EU speakers to one withdrawalist was acceptable

The Institute of Economic Affairs research on the BBC’s Question Time Brexit bias has found the programme is heavily weighted towards Remain. The IEA’s research found that 69% of guests in the 18 months after the Brexit referendum had supported the Remain campaign

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one.
BBC radio’s own “Feedback” programme was inundated with complaints that The News Quiz was totally filled with panelists to “Lampoon” Brexit voters. When was the last time there was a joke against remainers heard on Mock the Week or any comedy or light entertainment programme?

This might give a little explanation:
A spokesman for BBC Media action told Express.co.uk: “In the financial year 2017-18, BBC Media Action received approximately £3.1million from the European Commission.

In 2015, the Daily Telegraph reported that BBC Media Action received £9.3million between 2011 and 2014, much of it to deliver the EU's "European Neighbourhood Policy".
According to the publication, EU officials described the sum as a "broad political strategy", designed to strengthen the "prosperity, stability and security of Europe's neighbourhood in order to avoid any dividing lines between the enlarged EU and its direct neighbours".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/112500...rendum-spt

When was the last time you voted for the President of the EU commission or the President of the EU council? The bodies that actually decide and make EU law with MEPs only able to question them and make “suggestions”. MEPs don’t even have an input in deciding the candidates short list that they vote on for those two influential positions.

How much does LBC Radio get?  Big Grin

Whilst we are on the subject of funding I’m looking forward to seeing what the publicly funded ERG research entails.
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(07-04-2019, 07:48 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(07-04-2019, 07:43 AM)John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote: “The BBC that’s afraid to publish any criticism of Brexit”. Really?
Like this article for instance? “Ffs”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47055188

On Monday 18th Feb., Honda announced that it was closing its Swindon plant with the loss of up to 3,500 British jobs, the full reasons for which would be explained later. Without waiting for that explanation, the BBC decided that the whole thing was due to Brexit despite the vice president of Honda Europe saying: “This is not a Brexit-related issue.” It’s web article even referenced Sky News, a rival organisation, to point the finger at Brexit and included a link to a story about Nissan worded “Nissan ALSO cited Brexit”

Between September 2002 and June 2015, News-watch monitored Radio 4's Today programme for 324 weeks, amounting to 1,944 editions. There were 232 hours of EU-related feature coverage, and 5,113 guest speakers contributed to the EU debate.
"174 speakers (3.4%) were identifiable advocates of withdrawal. Of this group, only five speakers (0.1% of the total EU contributors) were left-wing advocates of Brexit." Despite some four million Labour supportsvoting leave.

Newsbeat is BBC Radio 1's flagship news programme aimed at a young audience. The News-watch survey, of the ten weeks of the campaign, showed there was a failure to meet the strict 'broad balance' requirement. There were 1.5 times more Remain than Leave supporters. (Might explain why many younger people voted remain)

BBC2's Newsnight broadcast on 23 January 2013, the day David Cameron announced an in/out referendum on our membership of the EU. The BBC Trust argued that the announcement was not a 'decisive moment' in the EU debate, and therefore the imbalance of 18 pro-EU speakers to one withdrawalist was acceptable

The Institute of Economic Affairs research on the BBC’s Question Time Brexit bias has found the programme is heavily weighted towards Remain. The IEA’s research found that 69% of guests in the 18 months after the Brexit referendum had supported the Remain campaign

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one.
BBC radio’s own “Feedback” programme was inundated with complaints that The News Quiz was totally filled with panelists to “Lampoon” Brexit voters. When was the last time there was a joke against remainers heard on Mock the Week or any comedy or light entertainment programme?

This might give a little explanation:
A spokesman for BBC Media action told Express.co.uk: “In the financial year 2017-18, BBC Media Action received approximately £3.1million from the European Commission.

In 2015, the Daily Telegraph reported that BBC Media Action received £9.3million between 2011 and 2014, much of it to deliver the EU's "European Neighbourhood Policy".
According to the publication, EU officials described the sum as a "broad political strategy", designed to strengthen the "prosperity, stability and security of Europe's neighbourhood in order to avoid any dividing lines between the enlarged EU and its direct neighbours".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/112500...rendum-spt

When was the last time you voted for the President of the EU commission or the President of the EU council? The bodies that actually decide and make EU law with MEPs only able to question them and make “suggestions”. MEPs don’t even have an input in deciding the candidates short list that they vote on for those two influential positions.

How much does LBC Radio get?  Big Grin

Whilst we are on the subject of funding I’m looking forward to seeing what the publicly funded ERG research entails.
 Well done for conveniently ignoring all the stuff on the BBC.  Rolleyes
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(07-04-2019, 08:03 AM)John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote:
(07-04-2019, 07:48 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(07-04-2019, 07:43 AM)John Osborne’s Knuckle Wrote: “The BBC that’s afraid to publish any criticism of Brexit”. Really?
Like this article for instance? “Ffs”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47055188

On Monday 18th Feb., Honda announced that it was closing its Swindon plant with the loss of up to 3,500 British jobs, the full reasons for which would be explained later. Without waiting for that explanation, the BBC decided that the whole thing was due to Brexit despite the vice president of Honda Europe saying: “This is not a Brexit-related issue.” It’s web article even referenced Sky News, a rival organisation, to point the finger at Brexit and included a link to a story about Nissan worded “Nissan ALSO cited Brexit”

Between September 2002 and June 2015, News-watch monitored Radio 4's Today programme for 324 weeks, amounting to 1,944 editions. There were 232 hours of EU-related feature coverage, and 5,113 guest speakers contributed to the EU debate.
"174 speakers (3.4%) were identifiable advocates of withdrawal. Of this group, only five speakers (0.1% of the total EU contributors) were left-wing advocates of Brexit." Despite some four million Labour supportsvoting leave.

Newsbeat is BBC Radio 1's flagship news programme aimed at a young audience. The News-watch survey, of the ten weeks of the campaign, showed there was a failure to meet the strict 'broad balance' requirement. There were 1.5 times more Remain than Leave supporters. (Might explain why many younger people voted remain)

BBC2's Newsnight broadcast on 23 January 2013, the day David Cameron announced an in/out referendum on our membership of the EU. The BBC Trust argued that the announcement was not a 'decisive moment' in the EU debate, and therefore the imbalance of 18 pro-EU speakers to one withdrawalist was acceptable

The Institute of Economic Affairs research on the BBC’s Question Time Brexit bias has found the programme is heavily weighted towards Remain. The IEA’s research found that 69% of guests in the 18 months after the Brexit referendum had supported the Remain campaign

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one.
BBC radio’s own “Feedback” programme was inundated with complaints that The News Quiz was totally filled with panelists to “Lampoon” Brexit voters. When was the last time there was a joke against remainers heard on Mock the Week or any comedy or light entertainment programme?

This might give a little explanation:
A spokesman for BBC Media action told Express.co.uk: “In the financial year 2017-18, BBC Media Action received approximately £3.1million from the European Commission.

In 2015, the Daily Telegraph reported that BBC Media Action received £9.3million between 2011 and 2014, much of it to deliver the EU's "European Neighbourhood Policy".
According to the publication, EU officials described the sum as a "broad political strategy", designed to strengthen the "prosperity, stability and security of Europe's neighbourhood in order to avoid any dividing lines between the enlarged EU and its direct neighbours".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/112500...rendum-spt

When was the last time you voted for the President of the EU commission or the President of the EU council? The bodies that actually decide and make EU law with MEPs only able to question them and make “suggestions”. MEPs don’t even have an input in deciding the candidates short list that they vote on for those two influential positions.

How much does LBC Radio get?  Big Grin

Whilst we are on the subject of funding I’m looking forward to seeing what the publicly funded ERG research entails.
 Well done for conveniently ignoring all the stuff on the BBC.  Rolleyes

I answered the point you made about the BBC, but to add the BBC are also beholden to this dysfunctional, fucktwit government we currently have too and they seem hell bent on a dead ard Brexit, so forgive me for thinking your argument is flawed. As for LBC crikey as Chris Leptowski (spelling) said you are (very) wide of the mark.  Big Grin

Awaits a TV channel, whose news reports blare out the screen with air raid sirens, presenters in military attire with the slogan Taking Back Control in the background. No one under the age 0f 45 need apply for jobs with them.  Wink
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