03-25-2022, 02:29 PM
Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago.
Boris Johnson
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03-25-2022, 02:29 PM
Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago.
03-25-2022, 03:19 PM
(03-25-2022, 02:29 PM)Protheroe Wrote: Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago. Where is the line drawn then? The amount of times Blair gets referenced as a war criminal from 20 years ago, so I'm guessing your morality timeline only goes back 20 years at any time - that should clear Blair in a couple of years then. (03-25-2022, 02:29 PM)Protheroe Wrote: Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago. That would have a bit more credibility if Dear Margaret had been able to shake off her infatuation with old Augusto and not still be droning on about him at party conferences long after the Tories had woken up to the fact that she had become a bit too bonkers even for their tastes. This bit from a conference speech (1999 as it happens) is priceless: "... the small minority of communists who once nearly wrecked the country under Allende will now be encouraged to overturn the prosperous, democratic order that Pinochet and his successors built" That was prompted by his arrest in response to an extradition warrant. I'm pretty sure she got the 'democratic' bit in the wrong place; probably a typo.
03-31-2022, 01:45 PM
03-31-2022, 02:04 PM
(03-25-2022, 05:02 PM)Ossian Wrote:(03-25-2022, 02:29 PM)Protheroe Wrote: Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago. Dear Margaret has Augusto to thank for winning the 1983 election.
03-31-2022, 02:10 PM
(03-31-2022, 02:04 PM)Protheroe Wrote:(03-25-2022, 05:02 PM)Ossian Wrote:(03-25-2022, 02:29 PM)Protheroe Wrote: Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago. Is "Augusto" shorthand for our undemocratic voting system? Because that is the only reason the Tories won a majority in 1983.
03-31-2022, 02:13 PM
03-31-2022, 04:15 PM
(03-31-2022, 02:10 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote:(03-31-2022, 02:04 PM)Protheroe Wrote:(03-25-2022, 05:02 PM)Ossian Wrote:(03-25-2022, 02:29 PM)Protheroe Wrote: Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago. Arf. The Losers Charter - if you can't win under the current system, the system needs to be changed.
03-31-2022, 04:50 PM
(03-31-2022, 04:15 PM)Protheroe Wrote:(03-31-2022, 02:10 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote:(03-31-2022, 02:04 PM)Protheroe Wrote:(03-25-2022, 05:02 PM)Ossian Wrote:(03-25-2022, 02:29 PM)Protheroe Wrote: Oh, look over there at something from 40 years ago. The third party in that very election got over 25% of the vote and won 23 seats. The party that gained the most seats from the previous election actually lost votes both as a percentage of the turnout and in absolute numbers. The system needs to be changed because, pardon my French, it is fucking bullshit. 1983 and 2015 are the two standout examples of our voting system being a complete shambles and not fit for purpose. The only - I repeat ONLY - reason Thatcher remained PM was because of FPTP being fundamentally undemocratic outside of two-candidate elections and unfit for purpose.
04-01-2022, 07:22 AM
And the fact that the Alliance vote was thinly spread across the entire nation, meaning that they only got MPs where people really wanted them - which is exactly how it should be.
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