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(01-07-2021, 11:20 AM)Cunninghamismagic Wrote: Trump nutters reminiscent of here 4 years ago. Trying to overturn a democratic election/referendum result. Blaming corruption as to why they lost. Democracy will win as it has here.

This nonsense has been rebutted several times above, Maggie.  Go on, have a look.
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(01-07-2021, 10:32 AM)hudds Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 10:23 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 09:52 AM)Protheroe Wrote: For those of you who suggested Boris is as bad as Trump I reckon now is time to pipe down.

A truly bonkers comparison to draw in the first place.

(01-06-2021, 10:11 PM)spyro 123 Wrote: both trump and biden are controlled by the rothchilds anyway

Big Grin Smile Big Grin Morning Jew-Baiter.

If the Rothchilds were any good at controlling anything I'd be making far more money from their bloody investment trust in my SIPP.

The comparison is with popularism as a political position to take and the tactics that go with it. You are the one who is trying to frame the debate as Boris Johnson is not as bad as Trump as some kind of political / moral victory for where we as a country politically.

There are "milder" comparisons:

The Brexit/EPG client media run by billionaire plutocrats sowing vitriol and lies;
The use of a clown populist idiot by a main Party in an election to "get it done"/Drain the Swamp;
The nutter fringe/Farage calling on 100,000 march to the Supreme Court to "let them know" as a threat as to how they should make judgements;
The despicable headlines against the Supreme Court from the Leave media plutocrats - "Enemies Of The People" and judges' lives threatened.  That was the day we saw the veil drawn aside.

All of that and then Jo Cox
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#73
(01-07-2021, 11:09 AM)The liquidator Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 10:22 AM)74bus Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 08:14 AM)The liquidator Wrote: You should you ugly duckling.

The rhectric was the same doing mass protests just these lunatics took it a step further.

The word you a were searching for is  'rhetoric'.

The 'step further' you refer to has resulted in four deaths.

Trying to decide who is the greater idiot - you or Melbourne. You win.

You OK hunny  Heart

(01-07-2021, 09:22 AM)Shabby Russian Wrote: As a remainer i find it objectionable to compare us to what occurred in Washington yesterday.

Yes many remainers found it hard to accept the result, but accept it they have, we have now left the EU. There has been no attempt to use violence to stop us leaving the EU.

And in the period between the referendum and us leaving, there were added complications that hindered the process of leaving.

1 - A general election in 2017 which led to Parliament being more fragmented, particulalrly over Brexit than it was before.
2 - Am internal Conservative Party power struggle which used Brexit as a determining factor in who would win that struggle. Remember it was Conservative Brexiteers who helped defeat May's withdraal agreement and thus lengthened the process.

Since the more decisive GE result of 2019 there has been no ore dissent over this issue, because the remain side has accepted the democratic process - even if we don't and continue not to like the outcome.

Why did you find it hard to accept?
The lie on the bus, championed by our esteemed and scrupulously honest current Prime Minister, claiming that £350 million pounds per week that was going to the EU would somehow be diverted to our NHS was a major factor in deciding the Brexit result. Even the awful Farage has since distanced himself from this dupery, but the damage had been done.
However, no-one is claiming that the voting process itself was corrupt and there is simply no comparison between Brexit and the terrible scenes in Washington.
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(01-07-2021, 11:27 AM)Ossian Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 10:32 AM)hudds Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 10:23 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 09:52 AM)Protheroe Wrote: For those of you who suggested Boris is as bad as Trump I reckon now is time to pipe down.

A truly bonkers comparison to draw in the first place.

(01-06-2021, 10:11 PM)spyro 123 Wrote: both trump and biden are controlled by the rothchilds anyway

Big Grin Smile Big Grin Morning Jew-Baiter.

If the Rothchilds were any good at controlling anything I'd be making far more money from their bloody investment trust in my SIPP.

The comparison is with popularism as a political position to take and the tactics that go with it. You are the one who is trying to frame the debate as Boris Johnson is not as bad as Trump as some kind of political / moral victory for where we as a country politically.

There are "milder" comparisons:

The Brexit/EPG client media run by billionaire plutocrats sowing vitriol and lies;
The use of a clown populist idiot by a main Party in an election to "get it done"/Drain the Swamp;
The nutter fringe/Farage calling on 100,000 march to the Supreme Court to "let them know" as a threat as to how they should make judgements;
The despicable headlines against the Supreme Court from the Leave media plutocrats - "Enemies Of The People" and judges' lives threatened.  That was the day we saw the veil drawn aside.

All of that and then Jo Cox

And MPs going about their business being threatened by Brexiteers and needing Police protection.

Fair is foul and foul is fair.
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#75
Four dead, numerous pipe bombs, guns, Molotov cocktails retrieved. Trumps refusal to call up the national guard with Pence eventually doing so. Why was security so badly prepared? 

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(01-07-2021, 11:32 AM)74bus Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 11:09 AM)The liquidator Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 10:22 AM)74bus Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 08:14 AM)The liquidator Wrote: You should you ugly duckling.

The rhectric was the same doing mass protests just these lunatics took it a step further.

The word you a were searching for is  'rhetoric'.

The 'step further' you refer to has resulted in four deaths.

Trying to decide who is the greater idiot - you or Melbourne. You win.

You OK hunny  Heart

(01-07-2021, 09:22 AM)Shabby Russian Wrote: As a remainer i find it objectionable to compare us to what occurred in Washington yesterday.

Yes many remainers found it hard to accept the result, but accept it they have, we have now left the EU. There has been no attempt to use violence to stop us leaving the EU.

And in the period between the referendum and us leaving, there were added complications that hindered the process of leaving.

1 - A general election in 2017 which led to Parliament being more fragmented, particulalrly over Brexit than it was before.
2 - Am internal Conservative Party power struggle which used Brexit as a determining factor in who would win that struggle. Remember it was Conservative Brexiteers who helped defeat May's withdraal agreement and thus lengthened the process.

Since the more decisive GE result of 2019 there has been no ore dissent over this issue, because the remain side has accepted the democratic process - even if we don't and continue not to like the outcome.

Why did you find it hard to accept?
The lie on the bus, championed by our esteemed and scrupulously honest current Prime Minister, claiming that £350 million pounds per week that was going to the EU would somehow be diverted to our NHS was a major factor in deciding the Brexit result. Even the awful Farage has since distanced himself from this dupery, but the damage had been done.
However, no-one is claiming that the voting process itself was corrupt and there is simply no comparison between Brexit and the terrible scenes in Washington.

Anyone who believed the £350 million on a side of a bus is a moron.
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#77
(01-07-2021, 11:44 AM)The liquidator Wrote: Anyone who believed the £350 million on a side of a bus is a moron.

True
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#78
oooh look, it's becoming self-aware!

Surely Trump must face criminal charge for inciting violence? Especially as 4 people died. Republicans deserting him in their droves
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#79
(01-07-2021, 11:44 AM)The liquidator Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 11:32 AM)74bus Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 11:09 AM)The liquidator Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 10:22 AM)74bus Wrote:
(01-07-2021, 08:14 AM)The liquidator Wrote: You should you ugly duckling.

The rhectric was the same doing mass protests just these lunatics took it a step further.

The word you a were searching for is  'rhetoric'.

The 'step further' you refer to has resulted in four deaths.

Trying to decide who is the greater idiot - you or Melbourne. You win.

You OK hunny  Heart

(01-07-2021, 09:22 AM)Shabby Russian Wrote: As a remainer i find it objectionable to compare us to what occurred in Washington yesterday.

Yes many remainers found it hard to accept the result, but accept it they have, we have now left the EU. There has been no attempt to use violence to stop us leaving the EU.

And in the period between the referendum and us leaving, there were added complications that hindered the process of leaving.

1 - A general election in 2017 which led to Parliament being more fragmented, particulalrly over Brexit than it was before.
2 - Am internal Conservative Party power struggle which used Brexit as a determining factor in who would win that struggle. Remember it was Conservative Brexiteers who helped defeat May's withdraal agreement and thus lengthened the process.

Since the more decisive GE result of 2019 there has been no ore dissent over this issue, because the remain side has accepted the democratic process - even if we don't and continue not to like the outcome.

Why did you find it hard to accept?
The lie on the bus, championed by our esteemed and scrupulously honest current Prime Minister, claiming that £350 million pounds per week that was going to the EU would somehow be diverted to our NHS was a major factor in deciding the Brexit result. Even the awful Farage has since distanced himself from this dupery, but the damage had been done.
However, no-one is claiming that the voting process itself was corrupt and there is simply no comparison between Brexit and the terrible scenes in Washington.

Anyone who believed the £350 million on a side of a bus is a moron.
Plenty did. We have loads of morons here too. Look across the pond and see what is possible when morons are manipulated.

(01-07-2021, 11:20 AM)Cunninghamismagic Wrote: Trump nutters reminiscent of here 4 years ago. Trying to overturn a democratic election/referendum result. Blaming corruption as to why they lost. Democracy will win as it has here.

You’re stretching it mate-ridiculously so. Think you’ll find the only death was by a far right nutter who killed Jo Cox. 
Most remainers accepted the result.
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