Think I have unearthed Proth

[baggy1]

https://apple.news/AYpj3x1wKTkycey0mXmADcw

1st bloke about the right age, blames Labour for house prices dropping in the last 18 months and likes to tell us how much tax he’s paying and his plans are in ‘disarray’ because he has to find a couple more grand each year if he wants to stay where he is (which is strange because his house is his pension apparently).

[man in the corner shop]

https://apple.news/AYpj3x1wKTkycey0mXmADcw

1st bloke about the right age, blames Labour for house prices dropping in the last 18 months and likes to tell us how much tax he’s paying and his plans are in ‘disarray’ because he has to find a couple more grand each year if he wants to stay where he is (which is strange because his house is his pension apparently).

Any mention of
Still winning
Armpits
Hatred of social workers 
Jealousy of public sector pensions
Glidepaths
Silence on Gaza genocide

That would've confirmed it beyond doubt

[Protheroe]

https://apple.news/AYpj3x1wKTkycey0mXmADcw

1st bloke about the right age, blames Labour for house prices dropping in the last 18 months and likes to tell us how much tax he’s paying and his plans are in ‘disarray’ because he has to find a couple more grand each year if he wants to stay where he is (which is strange because his house is his pension apparently).

My plans are perfectly formed thank you. Anyone treating their own property as a "pension" needs their head testing.

The property market above £500,000 is stagnant because of Stamp Duty and mortgage rates, and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

[baggy1]

I would put that figure higher than that but agree with the principle of anyone having their property as pension is bonkers. My point, and apologies for poking fun at you there, is how much the media will make such a big issue out of nothing - people threatening to leave the country, pension plans in tatters, they've gone too far this time etc, is just painfully predictable.

[Protheroe]

I would put that figure higher than that but agree with the principle of anyone having their property as pension is bonkers. My point, and apologies for poking fun at you there, is how much the media will make such a big issue out of nothing - people threatening to leave the country, pension plans in tatters, they've gone too far this time etc, is just painfully predictable.

Is it? We'll see. If you want an alternative insight then read Maike Currie's piece in The Times today.

I predicted this government would be least popular in history within 18 months of being elected, but not even in my worst nightmares did I believe it would be this awful.

In just two Budgets they've managed to entirely disincentivise starting a small business, going to university and saving for your future. That's quite a feat.

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

Don’t think you’ve mentioned about the popularity issue before. Maybe just once or twice.

It’s hardly Nostradamus levels is it, government handed a ten year shit sandwich struggles to make population content.

Maybe if you’d have foreseen Brexit and its impact more clearly, you wouldn’t have managed to win the foresight wooden spoon ?

[baggy1]

I would put that figure higher than that but agree with the principle of anyone having their property as pension is bonkers. My point, and apologies for poking fun at you there, is how much the media will make such a big issue out of nothing - people threatening to leave the country, pension plans in tatters, they've gone too far this time etc, is just painfully predictable.

Is it? We'll see. If you want an alternative insight then read Maike Currie's piece in The Times today.

I predicted this government would be least popular in history within 18 months of being elected, but not even in my worst nightmares did I believe it would be this awful.

In just two Budgets they've managed to entirely disincentivise starting a small business, going to university and saving for your future. That's quite a feat.

'Completely disincentivise'  - Arf, what happened to personal responsibility. Explain to me the difference in salary sacrifice that is going to stop people paying into pensions. Is that 8p or 2p in the pound really going to stop people contributing?

[Protheroe]

Maybe if you’d have foreseen Brexit and its impact more clearly, you wouldn’t have managed to win the foresight wooden spoon ?

Because I was entirely responsible for how we left the EU, yes I'm so sorry for my role in that 3 year shitfest I truly am.

It's fucking amazing how countries like Norway & Switzerland thrive outside the constraints of the EU. It's my fault that EFTA was never considered a realistic option. It's my fault that the Parliament spent so much time desperately ignoring electoral reality. It's also my fault that the Parliamentary impasse led inevitably to Boris Johnson v Jeremy Fucking Corbyn.

How can you ever forgive me?

On a micro-level, I always felt that I never wanted to be part of a club that would punish you for leaving. I now live in a country where my family and I are punished for staying.

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'Completely disincentivise'  - Arf, what happened to personal responsibility. Explain to me the difference in salary sacrifice that is going to stop people paying into pensions. Is that 8p or 2p in the pound really going to stop people contributing?

I think you need to pose that question to St Keir. He disincentivised that too.

You really don't get it now. But you will, I promise.

How can it be that a Plan A student who goes into teaching after 4 years will now take home £3.6K more than they would on Minimum Wage? In 2008 they took home 85% more. What is the point of going to University?

And as for salary sacrifice and tax cliff edges - you'll find many professionals simply go down to 4 days - including many doctors & GPs.

[baggy1]

Punished - another Arf. Get over yourself. Brexit would only ever have worked in a vacuum, you ignored that and now complain we don't live in a vacuum.

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And again you assume everyone will suffer and you know better. Fuck sake mon, get over yourself

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

As I’ve said before Proth, we told you in advance that the process of leaving would be in the hands of people not competent to perform the task. That was the easiest thing possible to see. But you chose to ignore it. So yes, you could’ve considered that at the time but were more obsessed with thinking you knew best and ignoring the simple realities. You now want kudos for foreseeing that mopping that mess up would be painful. That’s just kind of odd.