Bournemouth game
So many teams think they have the Premier League nailed down, spending 5/6/7/8 back to back seasons in the top flight, get complancent, getting relegated, yo-yo for a while then, eventually turning into all so rans.

Us, Swansea, Stoke, Wigan, and Bolton, spring to mind.

I live in the hope dull middle-table Championship mediocrity (or worse) doesn't await us, and we get back to the promised land one season soon. Otherwise what's the point.
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(01-13-2025, 09:10 PM)Sandking Wrote: So many teams think they have the Premier League nailed down, spending 5/6/7/8 back to back seasons in the top flight, get complancent, getting relegated, yo-yo for a while then, eventually turning into all so rans.

Us, Swansea, Stoke, Wigan, and Bolton, spring to mind.

I live in the hope dull middle-table Championship mediocrity (or worse) doesn't await us, and we get back to the promised land one season soon. Otherwise what's the point.

I think teams our size have a limited shelf life in terms of PL survival. There’s always a point early on where you are the model for others to follow, then before you know it your best personnel have been poached and other sides have figured out how to do things better than you. As you say teams get complacent and are only ever a handful of bad decisions away from the drop.

It’ll happen to the likes of Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth etc eventually.
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(01-13-2025, 10:18 PM)Duffers Wrote:
(01-13-2025, 09:10 PM)Sandking Wrote: So many teams think they have the Premier League nailed down, spending 5/6/7/8 back to back seasons in the top flight, get complancent, getting relegated, yo-yo for a while then, eventually turning into all so rans.

Us, Swansea, Stoke, Wigan, and Bolton, spring to mind.

I live in the hope dull middle-table Championship mediocrity (or worse) doesn't await us, and we get back to the promised land one season soon. Otherwise what's the point.

I think teams our size have a limited shelf life in terms of PL survival. There’s always a point early on where you are the model for others to follow, then before you know it your best personnel have been poached and other sides have figured out how to do things better than you. As you say teams get complacent and are only ever a handful of bad decisions away from the drop.

It’ll happen to the likes of Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth etc eventually.

I do think it’s getting more and more difficult to get relegated - the sheer gulf in class between promoted and established sides is so huge that you really do have to have a nightmare of a season to drop. Look at Wolves, they barely won a game for a calendar year yet will probably still survive.

I was just looking to see if the stats reflect this and over the last 10 seasons the average tenure for a promoted side in the PL is 3 seasons and on average only 1 in 3 promoted sides gets relegated in their first season. This is consistent in the last 5 years, 10 years and going back to 1992!

This season and last season will skew the numbers a bit, but go back 2 years and all 3 sides survived…

I like those odds…. Come on Nestor sort it out pal.
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2 of Bournemouth’s reserves who scored against us have scored against Chelsea to put them 2-1 up.
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Their reserve front three cost a combined £40m. Not big money by PL levels but they do spend well.
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