(11-22-2020, 01:57 PM)billybassett Wrote: More interesting data coming to light.

Danish mask wearing scientific study showing no difference in infection rates for mask wearers.

Portugal high court rule against PCR test being used as an effective way to determine positive covid.

A scientific study showing that covid asymptomatic people do not pass on covid.

A peer reviewed paper on the efficacy of lockdowns Another new peer-reviewed paper shows how futile lockdowns are. "Stringency of the measures settled to fight pandemia, including lockdown, did not appear to be linked with death rate."

70 Tories writing to the pm asking for cost benefit analysis.

And on the other side govt Newspeak stop publishing cancellation data

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/cancelled-elective-operations/cancelled-ops-data/

And for baggy1s crusade peddling and idiot calling stop inculcating people mate

(11-22-2020, 05:19 PM)billybassett Wrote: Completely missed the point. Consistently said it's never going to go away until we acquire community immunity. Like every other respiratory virus we deal with as humans.

All.lockdowns do.is.kick.it down the line.

Nothing I've said has been a proven lie. You're getting defensive now.

It's funny how people are happy to see hundreds of thousands of cancer and cardiac apptmts missed for a disease that is over 5 times less likely to kill them.

Funny how people are clambering over themselves to take a.vaccine that's had a few thousand trial patients (and pharma companies applying for emergency use of them so they can bypass certain phases) yet they believe covid is going to kill them.

Funny how you're happy to wear a mask even though you know nothing of their risks and yet we know their efficacy is basically null.
As for your testing statement. Wow . Test everybody every day without knowing how accurate the test is. Testing asymptomatic people (unless it's TB for example) is a.colossal waste of time and effort otherwise it would be standard practice.

Like many you've swallowed the govt machine's information Newspeak line and are now so entrenched as to find it difficult to get out of the hole you're in.

I'm here though to give you a helping hand.

(11-22-2020, 05:07 PM)baggy1 Wrote: Masks - pfft, I still can't see the problem with wearing them even if they do fuck all apart from give me spots

Tests - again pfft, I've said for ages they appear a pointless measure unless you are testing everyone every day, which is why I focus on those in hospital and deaths.

Ossian Wrote:

baggy1 Wrote:Masks - pfft, I still can't see the problem with wearing them even if they do fuck all apart from give me spots

Tests - again pfft, I've said for ages they appear a pointless measure unless you are testing everyone every day, which is why I focus on those in hospital and deaths.

My view on masks is that they probably do a bit more than fuck all (I'm guessing you probably think the same); how much more, in terms of prevention of spread, is open to speculation but I'm not having it that it's nothing and if the mask only protects me - and others from me - by a small percentage then that's a worthwhile contribution. Also - and possibly almost as important - masks just help to make others (most others) feel a little more comfortable in public places like supermarkets. The inconvenience to me is a small concession in that context.

I've probably posted this before, but I would have given all of those called in for annual flu jabs an antibody test. The information would have been useful and relatively cheap to gather; perhaps those displaying a strong antibody count could have had their Covid vaccination priority deferred by a few months if supplies are going to be limited.

(11-22-2020, 01:37 PM)baggy1 Wrote:

(11-22-2020, 11:00 AM)baggiebuckster Wrote: This story is from The Telegraph but can't link to it as it is subscription only. So here is the same story outlined in the Mail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8974617/Britons-test-negative-Covid-twice-week-set-receive-freedom-pass.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

This whole Freedom Pass/Covid Pass keeps on being touted. If true then you would have to be blind not to see where it is leading.

Ok let me explain it clearly - the figure used to compare the week 44 deaths was from 2016 and it was 'adjusted for population growth'. It was adjusted upwards by 7%, the actual population growth 2016 - 2020 was 2.4%. 

It's a lie and it's being repeated by idiots who want to believe it

Basically they have taken the worst year in recent memory and added a number that is made up and compared that to this year. Completely ignoring the fact that against an average year we have have 4k more deaths than the average for the last 4 weeks and 57k against the year to date. These morons are only going to add to that number by allowing it to spread more. I've heard of 4 people that have had it in the last two weeks in relatively close proximity to my immediate family.