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RE: It's The Ashes (again) - AnelkasBeard - 06-07-2023
(06-07-2023, 02:05 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: If we're calling up past-it cricketers who haven't played red ball be cricket in ages based on past reputations then might as well call up Graeme Swann.
Hope I'll eat those words but the likes of Travis Head will be licking their lips up against Moeen I imagine.
This would have been true of Leach, let alone any of the other potential spinners we could have called on.
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - Cuzer - 06-07-2023
Not really Borin' to me he's clearly the best option, if we had better viable options available we wouldn't be going back to him
His style of cricket suits how England are playing right now, I've no issue with it
We're not expecting our spinner to take 10 wickets a match and Root is massively under rated as a spinner. If Mo holds up an end, gets some turn when available and he will score way more runs than Leach would have then all is good
Nice to see the Indians lobbing a few throw downs at Smith and Head currently, dear me
Cuzer
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - Borin' Baggie - 06-07-2023
(06-07-2023, 04:09 PM)Cuzer Wrote: Not really Borin' to me he's clearly the best option, if we had better viable options available we wouldn't be going back to him
His style of cricket suits how England are playing right now, I've no issue with it
We're not expecting our spinner to take 10 wickets a match and Root is massively under rated as a spinner. If Mo holds up an end, gets some turn when available and he will score way more runs than Leach would have then all is good
Nice to see the Indians lobbing a few throw downs at Smith and Head currently, dear me
Cuzer
He was shit at that when he played a lot of red ball cricket. Now he's not played any since 2021, only plays for Birmingham (not Warwickshire) and franchise cricket. Don't even think he's played for the Warks 2nd XI.
Head is going to have him on toast.
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - Cuzer - 06-07-2023
Let's see, I stand behind the belief he's out best choice with Leach out
Oh and why's Head all of a suddern a good batsmen? Cause he's scored runs today? Let's see how he plays Jimmy swinging it around corners
Cuzer
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - Ted Maul - 06-07-2023
Pretty ominous showing from the Australians, this.
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - AnelkasBeard - 06-07-2023
(06-07-2023, 04:37 PM)Cuzer Wrote: Let's see, I stand behind the belief he's out best choice with Leach out
Oh and why's Head all of a suddern a good batsmen? Cause he's scored runs today? Let's see how he plays Jimmy swinging it around corners
Cuzer
Head has been scoring runs for fun recently. He's clearly in excellent nick.
Could say exactly the same about Brook for example.
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - Cuzer - 06-07-2023
He's in good nick sure but I wouldn't say he holds any fear for the English think tank like Lauberchagne or Smith do
Hussain did a good piece on him I caught at tea, into the ribs around the wicket, India went short outside off stump with no fly slip - braindead, he helped himself to a 4 and a 6, be a different approach under Stokes' leadership I'd wager
Cuzer
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - Borin' Baggie - 06-07-2023
(06-07-2023, 04:37 PM)Cuzer Wrote: Let's see, I stand behind the belief he's out best choice with Leach out
Oh and why's Head all of a suddern a good batsmen? Cause he's scored runs today? Let's see how he plays Jimmy swinging it around corners
Cuzer
He's got a decent recent record, he tends to score quickly and he is known for targeting the spinners. There's a reason I specifically mentioned him over Smith and Labuschagne even though they're both better batsmen.
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - ElbowGrease1973 II - 06-07-2023
Sad indictment on the quality of spinners in County Cricket, but probably the right call. If it had been any other series except the Ashes, I think they'd have given a younger player a chance, but they're taking the lowest risk option.
RE: It's The Ashes (again) - AnelkasBeard - 06-07-2023
(06-07-2023, 04:50 PM)Cuzer Wrote: He's in good nick sure but I wouldn't say he holds any fear for the English think tank like Lauberchagne or Smith do
Hussain did a good piece on him I caught at tea, into the ribs around the wicket, India went short outside off stump with no fly slip - braindead, he helped himself to a 4 and a 6, be a different approach under Stokes' leadership I'd wager
Cuzer
He averages 48 after 37 matches. His year on year averages are below. He's clearly a good batsmen with those numbers. Granted, I do expect Stokes to have more of a plan that the Indians have today, but you absolutely can't underestimate him.
2018 - 10 innings, 33.9
2019 - 17 innings, 49.4
2020 - 4 innings, 18
2021 - 4 innings, 62
2022 - 15 innings, 50.3
2023 - 8 innings, 72.3 and greatly increasing after this innings you'd imagine.