+- WBAUnofficial (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk)
+-- Forum: WBAUnofficial (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Forum: Politics (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=5)
+--- Thread: UK Covid death toll (/showthread.php?tid=10162)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
RE: UK Covid death toll - Derek Hardballs - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 05:52 AM)JOK Wrote: Oh well, as long as you and Bromsgrove are alright...
Let’s ignore and leave to their fate the other areas of the country where cases are shooting up, hospital admissions rising and the seven day average of deaths has doubled.
I don’t think the majority on this bored are “scared sh*tless”, just pragmatic and considerate of others.
Oh, by the way, there isn’t a magic invisible wall around precious Bromsgrove that the virus cannot get through. Shortly, it will reach there and people people there will start to suffer and either have long term effects or die. Still, your gold and gilts can’t catch it.
I know the economy needs to be oiled but there is a fine line to be found to keep thousands safe. Yes thousands, are you happy to allow all those families miseries just so you can go to a pub?
He has his Instagram page to think about.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Ted Maul - 09-21-2020
(09-20-2020, 09:21 PM)Protheroe Wrote: <Checks in to see whether WBAUnofficial Bored is still scared witless by a disease highly unlikely to seriously affect them, but far more likely to cost them their job>
<Confirms>
<Checks Bromsgrove District Covid cases in last week. Down 10 to 21 (out of 98,000) Sleeps easily>
Bookings must be drying up for the mobile disco.
RE: UK Covid death toll - JOK - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 07:06 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:That was a quick and extremely drastic edit. (Total rewrite) Frit of upsetting a poster?(09-21-2020, 05:52 AM)JOK Wrote: Oh well, as long as you and Bromsgrove are alright...
Let’s ignore and leave to their fate the other areas of the country where cases are shooting up, hospital admissions rising and the seven day average of deaths has doubled.
I don’t think the majority on this bored are “scared sh*tless”, just pragmatic and considerate of others.
Oh, by the way, there isn’t a magic invisible wall around precious Bromsgrove that the virus cannot get through. Shortly, it will reach there and people people there will start to suffer and either have long term effects or die. Still, your gold and gilts can’t catch it.
I know the economy needs to be oiled but there is a fine line to be found to keep thousands safe. Yes thousands, are you happy to allow all those families miseries just so you can go to a pub?
He has his Instagram page to think about.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Protheroe - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 05:52 AM)JOK Wrote: Oh well, as long as you and Bromsgrove are alright...
Let’s ignore and leave to their fate the other areas of the country where cases are shooting up, hospital admissions rising and the seven day average of deaths has doubled.
I don’t think the majority on this bored are “scared sh*tless”, just pragmatic and considerate of others.
Oh, by the way, there isn’t a magic invisible wall around precious Bromsgrove that the virus cannot get through. Shortly, it will reach there and people people there will start to suffer and either have long term effects or die. Still, your gold and gilts can’t catch it.
I know the economy needs to be oiled but there is a fine line to be found to keep thousands safe. Yes thousands, are you happy to allow all those families miseries just so you can go to a pub?
I think I'm the one being "pragmatic and considerate of others" - particularly the 1.5 miliion or so likely to lose their livelihoods, and the poor kids from already deprived backgrounds being further disadvantaged by year groups being closed due to a case of the snifffles.
Outside this particular bubble patience is wearing very thin. Even the BBC is beginning to recognise that:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649?fbclid=IwAR2o-CPf6SMCL7T8Y9qF643hunChDMr7ESEvC-0eDO96LUmv75CFjJO91IY
Though I'm more with Frank Haviland:
https://countrysquire.co.uk/2020/09/21/happy-2020/?fbclid=IwAR1EmKWFuQXnqUT-1HLqqGUxRAGRSflzmdTxTwqz4BAH8428qoMTlt4TAcE
RE: UK Covid death toll - Derek Hardballs - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 08:29 AM)Protheroe Wrote:(09-21-2020, 05:52 AM)JOK Wrote: Oh well, as long as you and Bromsgrove are alright...
Let’s ignore and leave to their fate the other areas of the country where cases are shooting up, hospital admissions rising and the seven day average of deaths has doubled.
I don’t think the majority on this bored are “scared sh*tless”, just pragmatic and considerate of others.
Oh, by the way, there isn’t a magic invisible wall around precious Bromsgrove that the virus cannot get through. Shortly, it will reach there and people people there will start to suffer and either have long term effects or die. Still, your gold and gilts can’t catch it.
I know the economy needs to be oiled but there is a fine line to be found to keep thousands safe. Yes thousands, are you happy to allow all those families miseries just so you can go to a pub?
I think I'm the one being "pragmatic and considerate of others" - particularly the 1.5 miliion or so likely to lose their livelihoods, and the poor kids from already deprived backgrounds being further disadvantaged by year groups being closed due to a case of the snifffles.
Outside this particular bubble patience is wearing very thin. Even the BBC is beginning to recognise that:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649?fbclid=IwAR2o-CPf6SMCL7T8Y9qF643hunChDMr7ESEvC-0eDO96LUmv75CFjJO91IY
Though I'm more with Frank Haviland:
https://countrysquire.co.uk/2020/09/21/happy-2020/?fbclid=IwAR1EmKWFuQXnqUT-1HLqqGUxRAGRSflzmdTxTwqz4BAH8428qoMTlt4TAcE
Arf says the Tory activist who has supported cuts to schools, youth services and other services set-up to support the most disadvantaged young people for at least a decade! Got to love these libertarians and their new found concern for people losing their jobs, the disadvantaged. Pull the other one not everyone has short term memory loss with regards the to the last decade.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Protheroe - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 08:55 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Arf says the Tory activist who has supported cuts to schools, youth services and other services set-up to support the most disadvantaged young people for at least a decade! Got to love these libertarians and their new found concern for people losing their jobs, the disadvantaged. Pull the other one not everyone has short term memory loss with regards the to the last decade.
Would that be the decade where employment has risen year on year? The decade when more disadvantaged kids have gone to university than at any point in our history?
That decade? Or another decade Dekka?
It's not me with the memory loss Dear.
And let me be quite frank - if you support these restrictions and any extension of them, then you're complicit.
RE: UK Covid death toll - billybassett - 09-21-2020
I've kept a watching brief on this thread. It's a very interesting conversation and shows another polarisation of people in how things should be dealt with.
For me the concept that we can't discuss the longer term impacts shutting the country down again or enforcing many of these local lockdowns because of the the short term potential impact on life of Covid is for me a bit of a nonsense.
Whole areas of the West Midlands and North East are being shut down slowly because of, on average, a spike of 20-30 Covid positive tests against a background now of 83000 people tested a day. The concept that the graph in April is one that we compare against today is facile. Only those at death's door were being tested then and thus the spike in April is so undercooked it's untrue. Saying we're heading for a second spike is a nonsense.
Look at the graph of patients admitted to hospital due to Covid. 205 in the whole of England on 18 Sep. There were 13 tragic deaths, there were more than that on 3 Aug.
We are comparing apples with oranges, we are killing a far greater number of people through the decimation of our economy, mental livelihood, the education of our kids etc. We had the lockdown we halted the virus at enormous cost. Can we now please learn to live with the virus and get on with the rebuilding of the country that will in all honesty probably wipe out the next 10 years of our kid's lives.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Protheroe - 09-21-2020
Amen to that
RE: UK Covid death toll - Ted Maul - 09-21-2020
Some interesting stuff in this presser from Vallance and Whitty.
If cases continue to rise as they are, we could have almost 50,000 cases on 13th October.
Cases going up in all age groups, not just the 'young'.
Four ways to stop the increase... reducing individual risk, ensuring people are self-isolating, break unnecessary links between households (whatever that is) and development of a vaccine.
RE: UK Covid death toll - billybassett - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 10:16 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Some interesting stuff in this presser from Vallance and Whitty.
If cases continue to rise as they are, we could have almost 50,000 cases on 13th October.
Cases going up in all age groups, not just the 'young'.
Four ways to stop the increase... reducing individual risk, ensuring people are self-isolating, break unnecessary links between households (whatever that is) and development of a vaccine.
50,000 people with the virus doesn't mean 50,000 cases. It means 50,000 people have the virus not that they are ill or need treatment.