(02-13-2024, 01:55 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:

(02-13-2024, 01:19 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote:

(02-13-2024, 01:06 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:

(02-13-2024, 12:50 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote:

(02-13-2024, 12:29 PM)Pragmatist Wrote: You’re correct.  Stadium match day revenue and naming rights for the stadium are the two main areas to focus on

Disagree Prag, it's hardly a novelty for clubs to diversify their commercial revenue streams. If we end up with an owner willing to put money in then means of investment outside of FFP constraints that can then be counted towards commercial revenues is a viable way to build that up, whether that be naming rights, conferences, shows, renting out land for events (don't know why we haven't partnered with DDC for something on the Hawthorns Pub/Greggs car park). The Hawthorns has excellent road and public transport links yet has been underutilised for that stuff, there's fuck all outdoor stadium shows in Birmingham for example so why not use it in the summer more?

I am yet to see an English club which owns an oil mining plant in the Middle East. 

If the income can’t go into the FFP calculations, then it’s pointless.

No but there's loads of scope for licensing for commercial opportunities which can be counted towards FFP income, obviously that's in conjunction with building the brand up on the pitch so easier said than done but it's not something that should be dismissed and we can't limit ourselves to just matchday income.

Spurs leasing space for a microbrewery on their ground is a good example of creative revenue approaches.

Using part of the ground, yes.  Building West Bromwich Village akin to Bicester village, no.

(02-13-2024, 02:10 PM)fuzzbox Wrote: You can bet even if somehow they miraculously develop a knack for building large and profitable businesses, the first thing the investors and shareholders would demand is to spin-off the old football club.

Even if it was successful, we'd be back where we started. If it wasn't, you can guess what would happen... 

The only way it would work is if these new profitable ventures were intrinsically linked with the football so this can't be done.

(02-13-2024, 02:12 PM)Ted Maul Wrote:

(02-13-2024, 02:10 PM)fuzzbox Wrote: You can bet even if somehow they miraculously develop a knack for building large and profitable businesses, the first thing the investors and shareholders would demand is to spin-off the old football club.

Even if it was successful, we'd be back where we started. If it wasn't, you can guess what would happen... 

The only way it would work is if these new profitable ventures were intrinsically linked with the football so this can't be done.

If they had that knack they wouldn't have wasted nine months trying to buy a football club the fucking idiots 

(02-13-2024, 02:17 PM)1952 Wrote: To FF

Didn't get chance to watch The Dakar program yet. Had what I thought at the time was a serious medical emergency so spent Saturday in the Royal Stoke Hospital having tests. 
Thankfully it wasn't a stroke.

(02-13-2024, 02:22 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:

(02-13-2024, 02:17 PM)1952 Wrote: To FF

Didn't get chance to watch The Dakar program yet. Had what I thought at the time was a serious medical emergency so spent Saturday in the Royal Stoke Hospital having tests. 
Thankfully it wasn't a stroke.

Shit!!

Sorry to hear that. 

Hope the results were ok.

(02-13-2024, 02:05 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: If the best we can hope for to make money is ticket sales, flogging our best players every season and adding a few pints and pies on match day  whilst renaming of the ground at normal not Blues valuation… we are fugged.

(02-13-2024, 02:52 PM)CA Baggie Wrote:

(02-13-2024, 02:05 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: If the best we can hope for to make money is ticket sales, flogging our best players every season and adding a few pints and pies on match day  whilst renaming of the ground at normal not Blues valuation… we are fugged.

I'm with Dekka on this on general.  The best we get is a shit band outside next to Greggs.  Hull give the away fans a bar, Bristol City has a great set-up with the bar restaurant and no doubt countless other clubs have similar ideas too.

A question re FFP, I don't know the answer.  If this extra development income came into the club, whilst the income may not count towards the wage% could it be used to pay for the academy and other non-playing costs?  If so would it mean any additional funds put it by the owners (£8m per year) could be used for playing staff as opposed to covering the academy.  Therefore it would, indirectly, be beneficial. 

We're central, have great transport links and a huge catchment population that could be attracted to the area for more than just 90 minutes on a Saturday, be that directly in the stadium or the land around it.  A separate venue for darts/boxings/bands/comedy surely isn't that unrealistic.  Link it to the ground that has a nice new bar area with eating/drinking and the club has now got an income from the bar takings at the very least.   I'd struggle to believe there's not enough events going on that it couldn't grab it's fair share.  

A potential new owner may be happy to get hold of some of the land and use it for leisure purposes income, a few eateries, bowling alley type stuff.  This is the type of thing that could mean more people come to games.  Allow people to get there earlier, eat/drink and then go home or do something post match.

At the moment, I park up at 2.30, walk to get in the ground for 10 to and back on my way home just after 5.   Things happening in and around the ground may just improve the match-day experience (god i hate that phrase but welcome to modern soccerball) and get more people in the ground for these higher prices you all want to charge.

Albion used to own how many social clubs in the local area? All sold off.

There's some small-time thinking on here that will see us remain small time.  Landlocked ffs.