(10-18-2019, 10:26 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:No they wouldn’t. It’s not like climate change has ever been mentioned before by anyone ever(10-18-2019, 10:19 AM)Midget In A Pinstripe Suit Wrote: I don’t think anyone denies a change in attitude/lifestyle is required to make change, but the manner of these protests helps nobody. The protestors in Trafalgar Square were using a diesel generator ffs!
I don’t think anyone disagrees they went too far yesterday / day before but frankly no one would be talking about the environment unless they, Greta and kids had protested.
There are plenty of numpties that will deny climate change without more than cursory glance at a dodgy YouTube video or say it’s plot to make them pay more for things etc.
(10-18-2019, 10:29 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:It’s amazing that so many people are able to justify their own planet damaging actions whilst condemning everyone else around them.(10-18-2019, 10:13 AM)hudds Wrote:(10-17-2019, 06:26 PM)Tom Joad Wrote:(10-17-2019, 12:51 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Regardless of tactics which we’re undoubtedly stupid, just doing feck all to address the problems we as humans are creating will not end well with for us as a species.True. Surely public transport is the desirable method, why disrupt it?
There appears to be little joined up thinking in terms of alternatives. Every new house should have solar panels yet Cameron's government cut subsidies and research/development resulting in many engineers heading abroad to work. Electric cars? Where do I start? There is still no "green" way of disposing of their batteries. How do people in flats, terraced streets get them charged? How does the government replace the millions it collects in oil revenue?
There is a lot to do. I'm not sure anyone really knows where to begin.
This is where one has to re-set how one lives. Most folk have got used to the idea of needing to drive and possess a vehicle yet this is a relatively new phenomenon. Few people did when I was kid (born 1958) and I have never had a car. It's not an essential thing but a convenience in urban areas and even in a rural area where I live, I get by on foot or bike (and use trains as necessary for longer distances). It's how we most of us lived 60 - 70 years ago pretty much.
The younger folk are starting to think about what they actually need individual transport - numbers taking driving tests have fallen (cost is a problem but it's also an attitude shift). Public transport is good in London and needs improving elsewhere to integrate with fewer vehicles (hopefully). Our generation has had the luxuries; the younger folk will think (have to think) differently.
Probably all too late anyway.....
...not with a bang but with a whimper.
I couldn’t do my job without a car and a member of my family would never go further than local shops without an adapted vehicle. The idea that we can all get a bus or walk to work is nonsense outside of London.
You would think someone just sneers at others for sport