Extinction Idiots
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(10-18-2019, 10:29 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(10-18-2019, 10:13 AM)hudds Wrote:
(10-17-2019, 06:26 PM)Tom Joad Wrote:
(10-17-2019, 12:51 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Regardless of tactics which we’re undoubtedly stupid, just doing feck all to address the problems we as humans are creating will not end well with for us as a species.
True. Surely public transport is the desirable method, why disrupt it?
 There appears to be little joined up thinking in terms of alternatives. Every new house should have solar panels yet Cameron's government cut subsidies and research/development resulting in many engineers heading abroad to work.   Electric cars? Where do I start? There is still no "green" way of disposing of their batteries. How do people in flats, terraced streets get them charged? How does the government replace the millions it collects in oil revenue?
There is a lot to do. I'm not sure anyone really knows where to begin.

This is where one has to re-set how one lives.  Most folk have got used to the idea of needing to drive and possess a vehicle yet this is a relatively new phenomenon.  Few people did when I was kid (born 1958) and I have never had a car.  It's not an essential thing but a convenience in urban areas and even in a rural area where I live, I get by on foot or bike (and use trains as necessary for longer distances). It's how we most of us  lived 60 - 70 years ago pretty much.

The younger folk are starting to think about what they actually need individual transport - numbers taking driving tests have fallen (cost is a problem but it's also an attitude shift).  Public transport is good in London and needs improving elsewhere to integrate with fewer vehicles (hopefully).  Our generation has had the luxuries; the younger folk will think (have to think) differently.

Probably all too late anyway.....

...not with a bang but with a whimper.

I couldn’t do my job without a car and a member of my family would never go further than local shops without an adapted vehicle. The idea that we can all get a bus or walk to work is nonsense outside of London.

We've had this before.  The vehicle is a convenience; it makes lifestyle choices broader but it is nonsense to say it is an essential. What did folk do 70 years ago?  Expire due to lack of convenenience?  Public transport outside London does need improvement which I already identified. It won't be you to re-set the thinking Dekka, it will have to be the next generations.
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Extinction Idiots - by SausEggBaton - 10-17-2019, 07:56 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-17-2019, 08:03 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by SausEggBaton - 10-17-2019, 08:21 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-17-2019, 08:29 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggpuss - 10-17-2019, 08:33 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by albion_pigeon - 10-17-2019, 08:34 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by The liquidator - 10-17-2019, 08:06 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-17-2019, 08:10 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-17-2019, 08:15 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Duffers - 10-17-2019, 08:15 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Ossian - 10-17-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggy1 - 10-17-2019, 08:47 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Big Cyrille - 10-17-2019, 09:21 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by petty sniper - 10-17-2019, 08:33 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-17-2019, 08:38 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by 4-hero - 10-17-2019, 08:38 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-17-2019, 08:44 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Malcolm Tucker - 10-17-2019, 09:00 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Peachy - 10-17-2019, 09:13 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Dreamkiller - 10-17-2019, 09:48 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by bradesbaggie - 10-17-2019, 10:57 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-17-2019, 11:33 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Ossian - 10-17-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-17-2019, 12:16 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Fido - 10-17-2019, 01:17 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by WWHO - 10-17-2019, 02:03 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Baggiejacko - 10-17-2019, 01:11 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-17-2019, 11:34 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by HawkingsHalfpint - 10-17-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggy1 - 10-17-2019, 12:28 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Jamin03 why change it? - 10-17-2019, 12:34 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by The liquidator - 10-17-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-17-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-17-2019, 12:59 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Tom Joad - 10-17-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by hudds - 10-18-2019, 10:13 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-18-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by hudds - 10-18-2019, 10:46 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-18-2019, 11:25 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggpuss - 10-18-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by hudds - 10-18-2019, 01:27 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by coxy134 - 10-17-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-17-2019, 06:35 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-17-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-17-2019, 06:45 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-17-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Captain Trunk - 10-18-2019, 07:12 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 07:54 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by chasetownbaggie - 10-18-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-18-2019, 10:14 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggpuss - 10-18-2019, 10:23 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Fido - 10-18-2019, 10:54 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggpuss - 10-18-2019, 04:30 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Derek Hardballs - 10-18-2019, 10:26 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Sotv - 10-18-2019, 12:39 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 11:46 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Ossian - 10-18-2019, 12:06 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 12:49 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Baggiejacko - 10-18-2019, 01:16 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-18-2019, 02:07 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by The liquidator - 10-18-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by hudds - 10-18-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-18-2019, 03:38 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by 4-hero - 10-18-2019, 05:02 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Ossian - 10-18-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Ossian - 10-18-2019, 05:24 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Fido - 10-18-2019, 06:57 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 07:17 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Borin' Baggie - 10-18-2019, 07:17 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by garryowensneck - 10-18-2019, 09:56 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-19-2019, 09:22 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Ossian - 10-18-2019, 07:37 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 07:48 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by The liquidator - 10-18-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by hudds - 10-18-2019, 04:11 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-18-2019, 03:51 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by baggiebloke - 10-18-2019, 03:55 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by backsidebaggie - 10-18-2019, 03:56 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by cornishbaggie - 10-18-2019, 04:37 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by SausEggBaton - 10-19-2019, 06:58 AM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Baggiejacko - 10-18-2019, 04:55 PM
RE: Extinction Idiots - by Cheshire East Baggie - 10-19-2019, 10:13 PM

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