These Environmental nutters
#71
isnt the ocean the largest producer of co2
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#72
(04-19-2019, 01:19 PM)spyro 123 Wrote: isnt the ocean  the largest producer of co2

Not the case overall. The oceans are termed a 'carbon sink' as they absorb so much carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide dissolves in the oceans but it becomes less soluble as the oceans get warmer so global warming will affect this. Also massive uptake of carbon dioxide by the photosynthesis of phytoplankton in the oceans
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#73
Last month they found a whale with 40 kilos of plastic in it's stomach ... very unlikely that it's the only one, (and another 3 million tons will go into the oceans this year), and does anyone remember the days when your windscreen used to be covered in flies after a journey? ... not any more ... even the insects are disappearing. Anyone who imagines we're not in a crisis needs a reality check. Personally I think it's already too late to turn it around unless the world governments get their shit together ... what chance when we have the likes of Trump in charge of the biggest polluters on the planet?
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#74
Some of the arguments on here are extremely specious.

"They drink coffee... They wear trainers... They have more than 1 child..." . This is the sort of bollocks Hatie Hopkins spouted in her swivel eyed rant against the protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral a few years ago: "... why are they protesting against globalisation when they drink Coffee? Eat burgers? Wear clothes? Have camping gear?"
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(04-19-2019, 02:51 PM)WBromley Baggie 2 Wrote: Some of the arguments on here are extremely specious.

"They drink coffee... They wear trainers... They have more than 1 child..." . This is the sort of bollocks Hatie Hopkins spouted in her swivel eyed rant against the protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral a few years ago: "... why are they protesting against globalisation when they drink Coffee? Eat burgers? Wear clothes? Have camping gear?"
Specious? Bollocks?

The world population has more than doubled since 1960. Double, in less than sixty years and it is set to be treble that by 2050. A threefold increase of resource consuming humans in under one hundred years.

450,000 sq Km of Amazon rainforest alone is now basically poor cow pasture. Even that will be unsuitable for grazing in just a few short years due to nutrient deficiencies and soil erosion.   All those trees no longer there to soak up atmospheric carbon. Add the methane emissions from the cattle together with the shipping around the world, in chilled juggernauts, of the meat.

Synthetic Polymers use has increased one hundred and fifty fold since 1950. They are very problematic when it comes to waste disposal and their production uses and causes serious amounts of carbon release . Carbon, which had been captured by the Earth for millions of years. Transporting said trainers and other fabrics from the other side of the world to shops here also adds carbon to the atmosphere and is the “globalisation “ which those protesting are complaining about.

So to buy and wear trainers and other polymer based fabrics in clothing is participation in the vile global trade which some appear to abhor.

So, just out of interest, which bits of globalisation do you think should be stopped? I presume you think it acceptable for couples to have three or more children, buy four or five pairs of synthetic soles footwear per year just to keep up to fashion and use oil guzzling container ships to transport them around the world. Not to mention flying in out of season fruit and vegetables.

Having said all that, The Human Race must be one of the few parasites that seems determined to kill it’s host.
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#76
(04-19-2019, 02:51 PM)Bromley Baggie 2 Wrote: Some of the arguments on here are extremely specious.

"They drink coffee... They wear trainers... They have more than 1 child..." . This is the sort of bollocks Hatie Hopkins spouted in her swivel eyed rant against the protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral a few years ago: "... why are they protesting against globalisation when they drink Coffee? Eat burgers? Wear clothes? Have camping gear?"

Because they are protesting about the results of the very things they do? On one hand they are preaching about the evils of a consumer society; on the other they are consuming exactly the kind of stuff that contributes to the very thing they are protesting about.
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#77
(04-19-2019, 07:18 PM)Sotv Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 02:51 PM)Bromley Baggie 2 Wrote: Some of the arguments on here are extremely specious.

"They drink coffee... They wear trainers... They have more than 1 child..." . This is the sort of bollocks Hatie Hopkins spouted in her swivel eyed rant against the protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral a few years ago: "... why are they protesting against globalisation when they drink Coffee? Eat burgers? Wear clothes? Have camping gear?"

Because they are protesting about the results of the very things they do? On one hand they are preaching about the evils of a consumer society; on the other they are consuming exactly the kind of stuff that contributes to the very thing they are protesting about.

The way consumerism, world economics and governments have shaped society means regardless of who you are, you are made to be a hypocrite. That still doesn’t mean that the environmental arguments are null and void if the person making it has had a weekend break in Barcelona and wears a pair Adidas Samba.
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#78
(04-19-2019, 07:27 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 07:18 PM)Sotv Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 02:51 PM)Bromley Baggie 2 Wrote: Some of the arguments on here are extremely specious.

"They drink coffee... They wear trainers... They have more than 1 child..." . This is the sort of bollocks Hatie Hopkins spouted in her swivel eyed rant against the protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral a few years ago: "... why are they protesting against globalisation when they drink Coffee? Eat burgers? Wear clothes? Have camping gear?"

Because they are protesting about the results of the very things they do? On one hand they are preaching about the evils of a consumer society; on the other they are consuming exactly the kind of stuff that contributes to the very thing they are protesting about.

The way consumerism, world economics and governments have shaped society means regardless of who you are, you are made to be a hypocrite. That still doesn’t mean that the environmental arguments are null and void if the person making it has had a weekend break in Barcelona and wears a pair Adidas Samba.
Im totally innocent, it was society what done it your honour.
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#79
(04-19-2019, 08:32 PM)Sotv Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 07:27 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 07:18 PM)Sotv Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 02:51 PM)Bromley Baggie 2 Wrote: Some of the arguments on here are extremely specious.

"They drink coffee... They wear trainers... They have more than 1 child..." . This is the sort of bollocks Hatie Hopkins spouted in her swivel eyed rant against the protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral a few years ago: "... why are they protesting against globalisation when they drink Coffee? Eat burgers? Wear clothes? Have camping gear?"

Because they are protesting about the results of the very things they do? On one hand they are preaching about the evils of a consumer society; on the other they are consuming exactly the kind of stuff that contributes to the very thing they are protesting about.

The way consumerism, world economics and governments have shaped society means regardless of who you are, you are made to be a hypocrite. That still doesn’t mean that the environmental arguments are null and void if the person making it has had a weekend break in Barcelona and wears a pair Adidas Samba.
Im totally innocent, it was society what done it your honour.
Not society, world governments. We have little choice but to live in the manner that the multinationals dictate, and when 30% of the carbon emissions on the planet are caused by burning trees ( de-forestation ), and while I have no choice but to use my car thanks to Public transport being useless for where I need to get, then I think I have every right to protest at the way the world is going ... even if I do drink coffee and wear clothes.
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#80
When we can still buy plug in air fresheners for our homes made of hard plastic and which use electricity when there are so many other ways if we are so inclined, kind of tells us where people sit with worrying about the planet!
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