After 13 years of the Tories…

[CaptainFantastico]

VAGUE RESPONSE WITH LOTS OF WORDS I THINK ARE INSULTS AND MAKE ME SOUND SUPERIOR INTELLECT

Incoming

[CA Baggie]

VAGUE RESPONSE WITH LOTS OF WORDS I THINK ARE INSULTS AND MAKE ME SOUND SUPERIOR INTELLECT

Incoming

I quite liked the accusation of narcissism whilst being the very definition of the accusation he was making.  

It seems that people can’t come up with anything that’s better and yet they’ll get about 33% of the vote.

Rodney Marsh’e lipstick on a pig springs to mind. They’ll be applying lipstick for the next 12 months.

[Pontificator]

If the Tories had in some material sense dealt with the carnage from the financial crisis then things would be much rosier. Rosier still had they built some bloody houses.

I have been posting about kicking the can down the road re: the GFC for 15 years. We're now at the end of the road and all the appalling policy decisions and incontinent spaffing of cash created from thin air have brought us to this point. So no, if you don't deal with the root causes of our problems then nothing will get better.

No one else shows any sign of wanting to do so either, so expect more of the same for the forseeable.

I have to agree you have been talking bollocks for all the years this forum has been around in its various forms. Eg The banks should have been allowed to fail. That Brexit would benefit the UK. And the Tories being the least worse

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What has got better…

  You are Dekka Softnuts and I claim my €5.

When are you going to finish off your usernam...

[Protheroe]

I have to agree you have been talking bollocks for all the years this forum has been around in its various forms. Eg The banks should have been allowed to fail. That Brexit would benefit the UK. And the Tories being the least worse

<sigh>

What I've actually said, consistently - is that the banks did not need to be bailed out in the wholesale way that they were. Nor did completely toxic institutions like RBS and HBOS need to be kept alive by the state in the way that they were. A managed break up and further competition to break the hegemony of the big banks is exactly what was necessary here.

As it is, we have what we have. I have never known a more severe case of Stockholm Syndrome than posters on here.

[Pontificator]

I have to agree you have been talking bollocks for all the years this forum has been around in its various forms. Eg The banks should have been allowed to fail. That Brexit would benefit the UK. And the Tories being the least worse

<sigh>

What I've actually said, consistently - is that the banks did not need to be bailed out in the wholesale way that they were. Nor did completely toxic institutions like RBS and HBOS need to be kept alive by the state in the way that they were. A managed break up and further competition to break the hegemony of the big banks is exactly what was necessary here.

As it is, we have what we have. I have never known a more severe case of Stockholm Syndrome than posters on here.

If the UK, the global finance and economic systems were run my way we'd all be fine. My old communist friend often said communism/socialism done his way...etc. Same coin? I really don't know how you live on planet certainty; I do worry about your MH, I mean look at JOK...E

[Protheroe]

If the UK, the global finance and economic systems were run my way we'd all be fine. 

No, not really. 

I've always been looking out for the interests of the youngest, poorest and genuinely entrepreneurial, rather than protecting the position of the oldest, richest and rentier class who were the only beneficiaries from the wholesale bailout of banks. Consistently, for 15 years.

No one else on here has ever taken that contrary position IIRC.

I always said it would end in disaster if we kept kicking the can down the road. And here we are in that cul de sac.

Everything negative economically in this country, from zombie companies, to suppressed wage inflation, to poor productivity, to embedded price inflation to massive asset price inflation has it's roots in the way we handled the GFC. Even Brexit wouldn't have happened if we hadn't marginalised swathes of Britain to look after the few.

I don't like saying I told you so. But I did.

[Tom Joad]

If the UK, the global finance and economic systems were run my way we'd all be fine. 

No, not really. 

I've always been looking out for the interests of the youngest, poorest and genuinely entrepreneurial, rather than protecting the position of the oldest, richest and rentier class who were the only beneficiaries from the wholesale bailout of banks. Consistently, for 15 years.

No one else on here has ever taken that contrary position IIRC.

I always said it would end in disaster if we kept kicking the can down the road. And here we are in that cul de sac.

Everything negative economically in this country, from zombie companies, to suppressed wage inflation, to poor productivity, to embedded price inflation to massive asset price inflation has it's roots in THATCHER'S CONSERVATIVES.  Even Brexit wouldn't have happened if we hadn't marginalised swathes of Britain to look after the few.

I don't like saying I told you so. But I did.

There you go, Happy to help.

[Protheroe]

There you go, Happy to help.

I don't recall Thatcher's Conservatives printing money on a scale unheard of like the UK did after the GFC, during Covid and the energy price crisis.

[Borin' Baggie]

There you go, Happy to help.

I don't recall Thatcher's Conservatives printing money on a scale unheard of like the UK did after the GFC, during Covid and the energy price crisis.

The UK's exposure to the energy price crisis can be tracked down to decisions made on energy policy in the early 1980s.

[Protheroe]

There you go, Happy to help.

I don't recall Thatcher's Conservatives printing money on a scale unheard of like the UK did after the GFC, during Covid and the energy price crisis.

The UK's exposure to the energy price crisis can be tracked down to decisions made on energy policy in the early 1980s.

Quite, and largely uncorrected since. And entirely irrelevant to the incorrect assertion Tom was trying to make anyway.