Are We That immune To Him Now?

[baggy1]

I notice you haven't addressed my point.

Oh the irony (and brass balls) from the bloke that simply ignores any pointed question that will make him look foolish.

[Protheroe]

Ignoring and choosing not to engage in pointless rows with someone you'll never agree with are two different things.

Ask my wife.

[baggy1]

Ignoring and choosing not to engage in pointless rows with someone you'll never agree with are two different things.

Ask my wife.

I'm not seeing her til later and I demand an answer now 

[JOK]

In political science, populism is the idea that society is separated into two groups at odds with one another - "the pure people" and "the corrupt elite", according to Cas Mudde, author of Populism: A Very Short Introduction.
The term is often used as a kind of shorthand political insult. Britain's Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has been accused of populism over his party's slogan "for the many, not the few" - but that's not quite the same thing.
The word "is generally misused, especially in a European context," according to Benjamin Moffitt, author of The Global Rise of Populism.
The true populist leader claims to represent the unified "will of the people". He stands in opposition to an enemy, often embodied by the current system - aiming to "drain the swamp" or tackle the "liberal elite".
"It generally attaches itself to the right in a European context… but that's not an iron rule," Dr Moffitt said.

Politics is not a science! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be taught in the Arts faculty.
 
I take it, that as there is no rebuttal, that you cannot argue that your oft insinuated accusations of ‘client journos, ‘cultism’ ‘Right Wing press.’ et al are all falsely one sided?
 
Let me get this clear; the Right use a slogan and it’s ‘Populism’ , the Left use a slogan and it’s “not the same”. Perfect sense!
 
So, the world is populated just by the ‘pure’ and the ‘corrupt elite’?  
No wonder your posts are always as they are when one of your go to quote and ideas repositories  is Cas Mudde, a contributor to your go to, totally neutral and fair, The Guardian. A ‘Scientist’ who always writes about the Right being close to Fascism and the left as ‘Progressives’. A self-proclaimed expert on the Far right but, seemingly, totally oblivious to the Far Left. Has a podcast called Radical on which he talks to “Radical” ‘progressive’  leftist journalists, politicians and artists (e.g. Billy Bragg, who has made recordings of The Red Flag and The International? Very centrist and liberal.)
Strangely he doesn’t hold one of your views as he has said, “I doubt that far right ideas are on the rise in the US. They were probably much more widespread several decades ago.” Haven’t mentioned that have you?  And I notice you didn’t use this bit of his definition  “Consequently, almost all relevant political actors will combine populism with a host ideology, normally some form of nationalism on the right and some form of socialism on the left. While populism does not threaten democracy in the same way as extremism did in the early 20th century, …”

[Derek Hardballs]

[b]Populism[/b], political program or movement that champions, or claims to champion, the common person, usually by favourable contrast with a real or perceived elite or establishment. Populism usually combines elements of the left and the right, opposing large business and financial interests but also frequently being hostile to established socialist and labour parties.

The term populism can designate either democratic or authoritarian movements. Populism is typically critical of political representation and anything that mediates the relation between the people and their leader or government. In its most democratic form, populism seeks to defend the interests and maximize the power of ordinary citizens, through reform rather than revolution. In the United States the term was applied to the program of the Populist Movement, which gave rise to the Populist, or People’s, Party in 1892. Many of the party’s demands were later adopted as laws or constitutional amendments (e.g., a progressive tax system). The populist demand for direct democracy through popular initiatives and referenda also become a reality in a number of U.S. states.

In its contemporary understanding, however, populism is most often associated with an authoritarian form of politics. Populist politics, following this definition, revolves around a charismaticleader who appeals to and claims to embody the will of the people in order to consolidate his own power. In this personalized form of politics, political parties lose their importance, and elections serve to confirm the leader’s authority rather than to reflect the different allegiances of the people. Some forms of authoritarian populism have been characterized by extreme nationalism, racism, conspiracymongering, and scapegoating of marginalized groups, each of which served to consolidate the leader’s power, to distract public attention from the leader’s failures, or to conceal from the people the nature of the leader’s rule or the real causes of economic or social problems. In the second half of the 20th century, populism came to be identified with the political style and program of Latin American leaders such as Juan Perón, Getúlio Vargas, and Hugo Chávez. In the early 21st century, populist authoritarian regimes arose in Turkey, Poland, and Hungary, among other countries.

The term populist is often used pejoratively to criticize a politician for pandering to a people’s fear and enthusiasm. Depending on one’s view of populism, a populist economic program can therefore signify either a platform that promotes the interests of common citizens and the country as a whole or a platform that seeks to redistribute wealth to gain popularity, without regard to the consequences for the country such as inflation or debt.

From the Britannica Encyclopaedia established in 1768

https://www.britannica.com/topic/populism

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In political science, populism is the idea that society is separated into two groups at odds with one another - "the pure people" and "the corrupt elite", according to Cas Mudde, author of Populism: A Very Short Introduction.
The term is often used as a kind of shorthand political insult. Britain's Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has been accused of populism over his party's slogan "for the many, not the few" - but that's not quite the same thing.
The word "is generally misused, especially in a European context," according to Benjamin Moffitt, author of The Global Rise of Populism.
The true populist leader claims to represent the unified "will of the people". He stands in opposition to an enemy, often embodied by the current system - aiming to "drain the swamp" or tackle the "liberal elite".
"It generally attaches itself to the right in a European context… but that's not an iron rule," Dr Moffitt said.

Politics is not a science! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be taught in the Arts faculty.
 
I take it, that as there is no rebuttal, that you cannot argue that your oft insinuated accusations of ‘client journos, ‘cultism’ ‘Right Wing press.’ et al are all falsely one sided?
 
Let me get this clear; the Right use a slogan and it’s ‘Populism’ , the Left use a slogan and it’s “not the same”. Perfect sense!
 
So, the world is populated just by the ‘pure’ and the ‘corrupt elite’?  
No wonder your posts are always as they are when one of your go to quote and ideas repositories  is Cas Mudde, a contributor to your go to, totally neutral and fair, The Guardian. A ‘Scientist’ who always writes about the Right being close to Fascism and the left as ‘Progressives’. A self-proclaimed expert on the Far right but, seemingly, totally oblivious to the Far Left. Has a podcast called Radical on which he talks to “Radical” ‘progressive’  leftist journalists, politicians and artists (e.g. Billy Bragg, who has made recordings of The Red Flag and The International? Very centrist and liberal.)
Strangely he doesn’t hold one of your views as he has said, “I doubt that far right ideas are on the rise in the US. They were probably much more widespread several decades ago.” Haven’t mentioned that have you?  And I notice you didn’t use this bit of his definition  “Consequently, almost all relevant political actors will combine populism with a host ideology, normally some form of nationalism on the right and some form of socialism on the left. While populism does not threaten democracy in the same way as extremism did in the early 20th century, …”

Here’s the link to where the quote was used.Link

I apologise to everyone else on here for the tedium of these exchanges. This will be the last one.

[Fido]

[b]Populism[/b], political program or movement that champions, or claims to champion, the common person, usually by favourable contrast with a real or perceived elite or establishment. Populism usually combines elements of the left and the right, opposing large business and financial interests but also frequently being hostile to established socialist and labour parties.

The term populism can designate either democratic or authoritarian movements. Populism is typically critical of political representation and anything that mediates the relation between the people and their leader or government. In its most democratic form, populism seeks to defend the interests and maximize the power of ordinary citizens, through reform rather than revolution. In the United States the term was applied to the program of the Populist Movement, which gave rise to the Populist, or People’s, Party in 1892. Many of the party’s demands were later adopted as laws or constitutional amendments (e.g., a progressive tax system). The populist demand for direct democracy through popular initiatives and referenda also become a reality in a number of U.S. states.

In its contemporary understanding, however, populism is most often associated with an authoritarian form of politics. Populist politics, following this definition, revolves around a charismaticleader who appeals to and claims to embody the will of the people in order to consolidate his own power. In this personalized form of politics, political parties lose their importance, and elections serve to confirm the leader’s authority rather than to reflect the different allegiances of the people. Some forms of authoritarian populism have been characterized by extreme nationalism, racism, conspiracymongering, and scapegoating of marginalized groups, each of which served to consolidate the leader’s power, to distract public attention from the leader’s failures, or to conceal from the people the nature of the leader’s rule or the real causes of economic or social problems. In the second half of the 20th century, populism came to be identified with the political style and program of Latin American leaders such as Juan Perón, Getúlio Vargas, and Hugo Chávez. In the early 21st century, populist authoritarian regimes arose in Turkey, Poland, and Hungary, among other countries.

The term populist is often used pejoratively to criticize a politician for pandering to a people’s fear and enthusiasm. Depending on one’s view of populism, a populist economic program can therefore signify either a platform that promotes the interests of common citizens and the country as a whole or a platform that seeks to redistribute wealth to gain popularity, without regard to the consequences for the country such as inflation or debt.

From the Britannica Encyclopaedia established in 1768

https://www.britannica.com/topic/populism

---

In political science, populism is the idea that society is separated into two groups at odds with one another - "the pure people" and "the corrupt elite", according to Cas Mudde, author of Populism: A Very Short Introduction.
The term is often used as a kind of shorthand political insult. Britain's Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has been accused of populism over his party's slogan "for the many, not the few" - but that's not quite the same thing.
The word "is generally misused, especially in a European context," according to Benjamin Moffitt, author of The Global Rise of Populism.
The true populist leader claims to represent the unified "will of the people". He stands in opposition to an enemy, often embodied by the current system - aiming to "drain the swamp" or tackle the "liberal elite".
"It generally attaches itself to the right in a European context… but that's not an iron rule," Dr Moffitt said.

Politics is not a science! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be taught in the Arts faculty.
 
I take it, that as there is no rebuttal, that you cannot argue that your oft insinuated accusations of ‘client journos, ‘cultism’ ‘Right Wing press.’ et al are all falsely one sided?
 
Let me get this clear; the Right use a slogan and it’s ‘Populism’ , the Left use a slogan and it’s “not the same”. Perfect sense!
 
So, the world is populated just by the ‘pure’ and the ‘corrupt elite’?  
No wonder your posts are always as they are when one of your go to quote and ideas repositories  is Cas Mudde, a contributor to your go to, totally neutral and fair, The Guardian. A ‘Scientist’ who always writes about the Right being close to Fascism and the left as ‘Progressives’. A self-proclaimed expert on the Far right but, seemingly, totally oblivious to the Far Left. Has a podcast called Radical on which he talks to “Radical” ‘progressive’  leftist journalists, politicians and artists (e.g. Billy Bragg, who has made recordings of The Red Flag and The International? Very centrist and liberal.)
Strangely he doesn’t hold one of your views as he has said, “I doubt that far right ideas are on the rise in the US. They were probably much more widespread several decades ago.” Haven’t mentioned that have you?  And I notice you didn’t use this bit of his definition  “Consequently, almost all relevant political actors will combine populism with a host ideology, normally some form of nationalism on the right and some form of socialism on the left. While populism does not threaten democracy in the same way as extremism did in the early 20th century, …”

Here’s the link to where the quote was used.Link

I apologise to everyone else on here for the tedium of these exchanges. This will be the last one.

That’ll be the fuggin day.

[Derek Hardballs]

[b]Populism[/b], political program or movement that champions, or claims to champion, the common person, usually by favourable contrast with a real or perceived elite or establishment. Populism usually combines elements of the left and the right, opposing large business and financial interests but also frequently being hostile to established socialist and labour parties.

The term populism can designate either democratic or authoritarian movements. Populism is typically critical of political representation and anything that mediates the relation between the people and their leader or government. In its most democratic form, populism seeks to defend the interests and maximize the power of ordinary citizens, through reform rather than revolution. In the United States the term was applied to the program of the Populist Movement, which gave rise to the Populist, or People’s, Party in 1892. Many of the party’s demands were later adopted as laws or constitutional amendments (e.g., a progressive tax system). The populist demand for direct democracy through popular initiatives and referenda also become a reality in a number of U.S. states.

In its contemporary understanding, however, populism is most often associated with an authoritarian form of politics. Populist politics, following this definition, revolves around a charismaticleader who appeals to and claims to embody the will of the people in order to consolidate his own power. In this personalized form of politics, political parties lose their importance, and elections serve to confirm the leader’s authority rather than to reflect the different allegiances of the people. Some forms of authoritarian populism have been characterized by extreme nationalism, racism, conspiracymongering, and scapegoating of marginalized groups, each of which served to consolidate the leader’s power, to distract public attention from the leader’s failures, or to conceal from the people the nature of the leader’s rule or the real causes of economic or social problems. In the second half of the 20th century, populism came to be identified with the political style and program of Latin American leaders such as Juan Perón, Getúlio Vargas, and Hugo Chávez. In the early 21st century, populist authoritarian regimes arose in Turkey, Poland, and Hungary, among other countries.

The term populist is often used pejoratively to criticize a politician for pandering to a people’s fear and enthusiasm. Depending on one’s view of populism, a populist economic program can therefore signify either a platform that promotes the interests of common citizens and the country as a whole or a platform that seeks to redistribute wealth to gain popularity, without regard to the consequences for the country such as inflation or debt.

From the Britannica Encyclopaedia established in 1768

https://www.britannica.com/topic/populism

---

In political science, populism is the idea that society is separated into two groups at odds with one another - "the pure people" and "the corrupt elite", according to Cas Mudde, author of Populism: A Very Short Introduction.
The term is often used as a kind of shorthand political insult. Britain's Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has been accused of populism over his party's slogan "for the many, not the few" - but that's not quite the same thing.
The word "is generally misused, especially in a European context," according to Benjamin Moffitt, author of The Global Rise of Populism.
The true populist leader claims to represent the unified "will of the people". He stands in opposition to an enemy, often embodied by the current system - aiming to "drain the swamp" or tackle the "liberal elite".
"It generally attaches itself to the right in a European context… but that's not an iron rule," Dr Moffitt said.

Politics is not a science! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be taught in the Arts faculty.
 
I take it, that as there is no rebuttal, that you cannot argue that your oft insinuated accusations of ‘client journos, ‘cultism’ ‘Right Wing press.’ et al are all falsely one sided?
 
Let me get this clear; the Right use a slogan and it’s ‘Populism’ , the Left use a slogan and it’s “not the same”. Perfect sense!
 
So, the world is populated just by the ‘pure’ and the ‘corrupt elite’?  
No wonder your posts are always as they are when one of your go to quote and ideas repositories  is Cas Mudde, a contributor to your go to, totally neutral and fair, The Guardian. A ‘Scientist’ who always writes about the Right being close to Fascism and the left as ‘Progressives’. A self-proclaimed expert on the Far right but, seemingly, totally oblivious to the Far Left. Has a podcast called Radical on which he talks to “Radical” ‘progressive’  leftist journalists, politicians and artists (e.g. Billy Bragg, who has made recordings of The Red Flag and The International? Very centrist and liberal.)
Strangely he doesn’t hold one of your views as he has said, “I doubt that far right ideas are on the rise in the US. They were probably much more widespread several decades ago.” Haven’t mentioned that have you?  And I notice you didn’t use this bit of his definition  “Consequently, almost all relevant political actors will combine populism with a host ideology, normally some form of nationalism on the right and some form of socialism on the left. While populism does not threaten democracy in the same way as extremism did in the early 20th century, …”

Here’s the link to where the quote was used.Link

I apologise to everyone else on here for the tedium of these exchanges. This will be the last one.

That’ll be the fuggin day.

Thank you Peter Ustinov.