Durham

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Forget about Proths "limited to the hospital and care sector comment", that is plain stupid as people contract it prior to going into hospital.

PHE suggests at least 20% of those who've had Covid 19 contracted it in hospital and, of course 90% of health workers who've had it have contracted it in hospital.

The death rate for social care workers from Covid 19 is double that of the general working age population. The numbers of deaths in care homes are awful and are recorded by the CQC / ONS.

I don't make this stuff up you know.

If you have a problem in specific sectors, you target those specific sectors. You don't blanket lockdown everyone.

But you do manipulate figures to inflate them - 20% of those who've had it will include the 90% figure which is unnecessary but as it's a big number it sounds impressive. What are the actual numbers of cases, not % that you are talking about. 

And no doubt that care workers are in the firing line here, I'm very much of the belief that the 'loading' element of this virus is very important in understanding how to deal with it and that is especially in the case of putting people in a crowded room together as we would normally do.

And again you talk of people who have had it when that data is simply not available, it might be being estimated but we simply don't know because we haven't tested. 

You might not make this stuff up, but you do a very good impression of someone who is ignoring obvious figures like 65,000 excess deaths with a lockdown - you've ignored this question a few times so it would be nice to get an answer. Do you think that figure would have been better or worse without a lockdown?