Second Referendum

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+1. Three years wasted by not starting to prepare for no deal from day one.

“Oh look a cliff, let’s plan for jumping off it. It’ll fine we have planned for it.”

Only the swivel eyed UKIP (now called the Conservative Party) and those rich enough for it not to affect them would vote for such an eventuality.

1) The country voted to come out.
2) No deal was a possible eventuality.

So why would you not prepare for it? The very reason we are looking over a cliff is because this hasn’t happened. I’m not saying no deal is necessarily the way to go but to start from a negotiating position of “let’s keep everything the same and just start to take out the bits we don’t want” was akin to bending over a table and waiting for the EU.

A slim majority of the country voted to leave. 
A no deal was always stupid and remains so. 
The government have been planning for it, and when you hear that they have the army and other wartime contingencies it makes you realise just how stupid Brexit is. 

No deal is like the nuclear deterrent it simply means we damage each other. What a grown up bargaining position to start with. 

I can’t respect or support Brexit and that’s the problem for the country, for the sake of the Tory Party’s internal politics we have opened Pandora’s box and it’s going to take at least a generation to fix. The upside is the they may have damaged themselves severely in the process. Never a bad thing.

If this was just about Tory party internal struggles then why dd 52% of the voters vote leave? if they were all conservative voters then there would have been a massive majority for May at the last election, must have missed that   

All parties, with the exception of the liberal democrats, stood on a deliver leave platform so if you think the left is stronger and undamaged after this we shall see.

The reason for the referendum was the internal Tory party fissure.

The reasons for the slim majority in favour to leave includes Tory Kippers/Full Kippers as well as many other anti-EU voters (including Labour) but it was also a protest "anti-Westminster" vote that wasn't really anything to do with the EU.  It was two fingers job "TO THE LOT OF YOU".  Even if the cliff-edge causes carnage, it seems the two fingers will carry on waving.  It is total mess now.

This could have been managed if May had not sided with the fanatics/idealogue Party-within-her Party (ERG) and her "red lines" before triggering Article 50 and setting in motion a process that was never anticipated.  All for the Tory party fault line.