The Vote Leave Party
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(11-13-2020, 12:15 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(11-12-2020, 11:38 PM)JOK Wrote:
(11-12-2020, 09:43 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: If you’re going to say ‘my mate Jezza’ as a reply then I’m not going to take your replies seriously. I appreciate defending this government is becoming more difficult every day but I admire your determination to do so.
 Which bit of the post is “defending the government”?  Pointing out they are not likely to surround themselves with people who have no belief in what they are supposed to obtain, is not defending the government. It’s just yet another excuse for you to have a snidely moan. Yet another thread on the same theme.
And here we go with your constant hypocrisy again : remember posting this: “This is the calibre of politician that JOK thinks…”?
So, O.K. we'll take out the Jezza reference. Do you think any Politian is going to surround himself with naysayers?
Yes I think a decent leader would surround himself or herself with people with differing opinions that would challenge them, their ideas, their way of doing things. Any dissenting voices in the Conservative were either silenced or thrown out the party before the last election and now what have we got? Group think and has it helped the country? Has it helped Brexit negotiations? Has it brought the country together? Has it made people more or less inclined to believe that the government are making decisions / appointments, contracting people based on merit? Has it helped the Prime Minister look like he’s in charge? 

Are you happy with the influence the Vote Leave team have on the democratic process? Or do you find their influence undemocratic given many are unelected
 What is the difference to Corbyn filling many of his shadow cabinet with his supporters and having the backing of and influenced by  “unelected” Momentum members?
What is the difference with Tony Blair having Jonathan Powel Plotting to keep Brown out of office? He was the first to be given the ‘role’ of Chief of Staff with permission to order civil servant about. Something at the time which unprecedented for a political appointee. Was he elected?
What is different to Tony Blair having Campbell as his chief strategist? Was he elected?
Back to the Op. It’s all the same old same old. Nothing new.  Still, I await the usual repost “Whataboutery”.
Still ignoring the charge of hypocrisy, I notice.  Tongue  (I know you like a winky thing)
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Messages In This Thread
The Vote Leave Party - by Derek Hardballs - 11-12-2020, 08:38 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by JOK - 11-12-2020, 09:06 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Derek Hardballs - 11-12-2020, 09:11 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Jack Halford - 11-12-2020, 10:40 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Borin' Baggie - 11-13-2020, 09:07 AM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by JOK - 11-12-2020, 09:11 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Derek Hardballs - 11-12-2020, 09:22 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by JOK - 11-12-2020, 09:36 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Derek Hardballs - 11-12-2020, 09:43 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by JOK - 11-12-2020, 11:38 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Derek Hardballs - 11-13-2020, 12:15 AM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by JOK - 11-13-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Sliced - 11-12-2020, 10:25 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by chasetownbaggie - 11-12-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by baggy1 - 11-12-2020, 10:58 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Derek Hardballs - 11-12-2020, 10:59 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Ted Maul - 11-13-2020, 10:37 AM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by Jack Halford - 11-13-2020, 01:38 PM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by baggy1 - 11-13-2020, 10:39 AM
RE: The Vote Leave Party - by JOK - 11-13-2020, 11:05 PM

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