Schools

[Shabby Russian]

The space is not the issue, the number of available teachers is the problem.

I don't agree. You could teach half the kids in the morning and half in the afternoon - setting them work for the other half day.
P-Major is Year 6 at the largest Primary in Worcestershire and is still only getting 2 days per week. It's a national fucking scandal, as I told Saj on the phone the other night.

Absolutely - schools should be seen as an exception to the '2 meter rule' - as long as basic cleanliness is observed it shouldn't be too difficult to re open schools in September at the very latest.

It should be remembered the vast majority of schools have been open throughout the lockdown.

And i'm not sure why schools should be an exception to the two metre rule. If it is not needed in schools, I would suggest it's not needed anywhere.

[Derek Hardballs]

The space is not the issue, the number of available teachers is the problem.

I don't agree. You could teach half the kids in the morning and half in the afternoon - setting them work for the other half day.
P-Major is Year 6 at the largest Primary in Worcestershire and is still only getting 2 days per week. It's a national fucking scandal, as I told Saj on the phone the other night.

Absolutely - schools should be seen as an exception to the '2 meter rule' - as long as basic cleanliness is observed it shouldn't be too difficult to re open schools in September at the very latest.

Why?

[Borin' Baggie]

The space is not the issue, the number of available teachers is the problem.

I don't agree. You could teach half the kids in the morning and half in the afternoon - setting them work for the other half day.
P-Major is Year 6 at the largest Primary in Worcestershire and is still only getting 2 days per week. It's a national fucking scandal, as I told Saj on the phone the other night.

Absolutely - schools should be seen as an exception to the '2 meter rule' - as long as basic cleanliness is observed it shouldn't be too difficult to re open schools in September at the very latest.

Why?

How the hell are you supposed to teach people and enforce a 2 metre distance everywhere? How is that practical?

[Derek Hardballs]

The space is not the issue, the number of available teachers is the problem.

I don't agree. You could teach half the kids in the morning and half in the afternoon - setting them work for the other half day.
P-Major is Year 6 at the largest Primary in Worcestershire and is still only getting 2 days per week. It's a national fucking scandal, as I told Saj on the phone the other night.

Absolutely - schools should be seen as an exception to the '2 meter rule' - as long as basic cleanliness is observed it shouldn't be too difficult to re open schools in September at the very latest.

Why?

How the hell are you supposed to teach people and enforce a 2 metre distance everywhere? How is that practical?

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

[Borin' Baggie]

I don't agree. You could teach half the kids in the morning and half in the afternoon - setting them work for the other half day.
P-Major is Year 6 at the largest Primary in Worcestershire and is still only getting 2 days per week. It's a national fucking scandal, as I told Saj on the phone the other night.

Absolutely - schools should be seen as an exception to the '2 meter rule' - as long as basic cleanliness is observed it shouldn't be too difficult to re open schools in September at the very latest.

Why?

How the hell are you supposed to teach people and enforce a 2 metre distance everywhere? How is that practical?

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

Answer the question, how are you supposed to teach people while enforcing a 2 metre distance? Classrooms aren't big enough and there are nowhere near an appropriate number of staff.

As for what experts are saying, in a classroom environment it doesn't matter whether you're 30mm away or 10m away as the exposure times make the distance redundant.

[JOK]

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

Must you bring bloody Brexit into every thread?
And you constantly keep making that stupid assertion. 
184 Conservative MPs voted to remain!  Including the vast majority of the cabinet.
139 conservative MPs voted to leave.  (4 undeclared)
How does that make them the leave party?  At least 480 MPs voted to remain. At least 77% of MPs voted to remain. No main political party campaigned for leave.

There was only one ‘Leave’ party and they only had one MP. 
Again, the principal of democracy and percentages eludes you.

[Derek Hardballs]

Absolutely - schools should be seen as an exception to the '2 meter rule' - as long as basic cleanliness is observed it shouldn't be too difficult to re open schools in September at the very latest.

Why?

How the hell are you supposed to teach people and enforce a 2 metre distance everywhere? How is that practical?

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

Answer the question, how are you supposed to teach people while enforcing a 2 metre distance? Classrooms aren't big enough and there are nowhere near an appropriate number of staff.

As for what experts are saying, in a classroom environment it doesn't matter whether you're 30mm away or 10m away as the exposure times make the distance redundant.

As I’ve said if the rules for everyone else is 2m then why is it ok for schools to be a 1m? Either adjust it to 1m if it’s safe and base that decision on expert advice.

[Borin' Baggie]

Why?

How the hell are you supposed to teach people and enforce a 2 metre distance everywhere? How is that practical?

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

Answer the question, how are you supposed to teach people while enforcing a 2 metre distance? Classrooms aren't big enough and there are nowhere near an appropriate number of staff.

As for what experts are saying, in a classroom environment it doesn't matter whether you're 30mm away or 10m away as the exposure times make the distance redundant.

As I’ve said if the rules for everyone else is 2m then why is it ok for schools to be a 1m? Either adjust it to 1m if it’s safe and base that decision on expert advice.

What you've said doesn't answer the question. How are you supposed to teach with a 2 metre distance?

And, as I have explained, expert advice on distance is irrelevant in classrooms due to exposure times so that argument doesn't make any sense. You can't compare the adequate legislation for shopping, where 2m will lead to a big drop in risk, to in schools, where it doesn't make a difference.

[Derek Hardballs]

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

Must you bring bloody Brexit into every thread?
And you constantly keep making that stupid assertion. 
184 Conservative MPs voted to remain!  Including the vast majority of the cabinet.
139 conservative MPs voted to leave.  (4 undeclared)
How does that make them the leave party?  At least 480 MPs voted to remain. At least 77% of MPs voted to remain. No main political party campaigned for leave.

There was only one ‘Leave’ party and they only had one MP. 
Again, the principal of democracy and percentages eludes you.

Who are making the decisions? Johnson, Gove, Patel, Raab and apparently an unelected advisor. Who purged their own party of many sensible and respected centrist Conservative MPs? How many fvthe new MPs are believers in Brexit most I would imagine?

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How the hell are you supposed to teach people and enforce a 2 metre distance everywhere? How is that practical?

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

Answer the question, how are you supposed to teach people while enforcing a 2 metre distance? Classrooms aren't big enough and there are nowhere near an appropriate number of staff.

As for what experts are saying, in a classroom environment it doesn't matter whether you're 30mm away or 10m away as the exposure times make the distance redundant.

As I’ve said if the rules for everyone else is 2m then why is it ok for schools to be a 1m? Either adjust it to 1m if it’s safe and base that decision on expert advice.

What you've said doesn't answer the question. How are you supposed to teach with a 2 metre distance?

And, as I have explained, expert advice on distance is irrelevant in classrooms due to exposure times so that argument doesn't make any sense. You can't compare the adequate legislation for shopping, where 2m will lead to a big drop in risk, to in schools, where it doesn't make a difference.

I never said it was practical I argued to the contrary on this very thread. I know it’s not, I have been in meetings that have spelt this out loud and clear with senior teachers. 

The points however is it ok for teachers to be possibly be exposed to increased risk as it’s simply not possible to accommodate the 2m rule? That is not the teachers fault. So why are they and unions getting the blame for wanting to ensure their own safety?

[JOK]

It’s either safe or it isn’t. Just reducing the distance because it’s inconvenient and impractical isn’t really a solution. What do the experts advocate? Not the VoteLeave Party they are too busy planning to sell Marmite to Oz.

Must you bring bloody Brexit into every thread?
And you constantly keep making that stupid assertion. 
184 Conservative MPs voted to remain!  Including the vast majority of the cabinet.
139 conservative MPs voted to leave.  (4 undeclared)
How does that make them the leave party?  At least 480 MPs voted to remain. At least 77% of MPs voted to remain. No main political party campaigned for leave.

There was only one ‘Leave’ party and they only had one MP. 
Again, the principal of democracy and percentages eludes you.

Well, as only 24% of MP elected in the last GE are sitting for the first time and that will include new Cons elected in the ‘Blue Wall’ and new SNP members, I would imagine there still quite a large proportion of the Remainers still in the House.  Not quite a “purge” is it. 
The only significant Con to have the Whip removed was that ‘brothel Creeper’ and that not until just before the last election.
Still, I suppose, anecdotally you can say ALL the remainers were purged.