Poison from the top - Corbyn's antisemitism
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The chief rabbi speaks out today in an unprecedented attack by him about the 'mendacious fiction' of Corbyn and his statements on antisemitism which has 'taken root' in the Labour party and the anxiety of the Jewish community about him. 

I didn't think we'd see these days again - Corbyn needs to be kicked out and condemned the way Mosely was.

As the rabbi suggests, you would fear for the soul of the country if this was ignored and Corbyn got elected.

https://news.sky.com/story/chief-rabbi-a...e-11870412
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#2
Can you give us an anti Semitic quote from Corbyn?
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#3
(11-26-2019, 12:31 AM)Sunshine Wrote: Can you give us an anti Semitic quote from Corbyn?

I'm not sure why you are asking me this. If you do not have all the information on the substance of the claims of anti Semitism against Corbyn, you can very quickly check it. The Jewish Chronicle and other Jewish paper editorials on the same day is a good place to start but it is not all. The claims are not centered around quotes.

I hope you are just asking for information and not suggesting all the Jewish leaders and Labour party MPs and councillors bullied out of the party are liars. I'm sure you are not, but there are those that do. 

I find the denials and attacks on and aggression towards the Jewish people calling out the Labour party's and Corbyn's anti semitism quite sinister. It's got a nasty feel to it of another age.
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And some of the stuff Boris Johnson has said about Muslim women and black people haven't? Get to fuck, you don't care about racism.
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(11-26-2019, 01:31 AM)Pickle Rick Wrote:
(11-26-2019, 12:31 AM)Sunshine Wrote: Can you give us an anti Semitic quote from Corbyn?

I'm not sure why you are asking me this. If you do not have all the information on the substance of the claims of anti Semitism against Corbyn, you can very quickly check it. The Jewish Chronicle and other Jewish paper editorials on the same day is a good place to start but it is not all. The claims are not centered around quotes.

I hope you are just asking for information and not suggesting all the Jewish leaders and Labour party MPs and councillors bullied out of the party are liars. I'm sure you are not, but there are those that do. 

I find the denials and attacks on and aggression towards the Jewish people calling out the Labour party's and Corbyn's anti semitism quite sinister. It's got a nasty feel to it of another age.

Very few people are saying it’s not a problem. However you can’t dismiss the ‘sinister’ nature of the other main party either. The list of lies, falsehoods, manipulation of figures. Their record in office is abysmal, they cannot be trusted on Brexit and their record on racism is hardly impeccable. If you can overlook all this and say they are the least worse option then hats off to you.
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(11-26-2019, 07:08 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: And some of the stuff Boris Johnson has said about Muslim women and black people haven't? Get to fuck, you don't care about racism.

For the average Tory: bum boys, letterboxes and piccananinnies and a range of other comments by, yes our Prime minister, is just a shopping list of who to shaft next. Not racism dear boy...
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(11-26-2019, 08:33 AM)billybassett Wrote:
(11-26-2019, 07:08 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: And some of the stuff Boris Johnson has said about Muslim women and black people haven't? Get to fuck, you don't care about racism.

For the average Tory: bum boys, letterboxes and piccananinnies and a range of other comments by, yes our Prime minister, is just a shopping list of who to shaft next. Not racism dear boy...

You can make your propaganda led arguments to suggest that both the main parties are led to racist, terrorist sympathisers if you wanted to. Only one of the parties is trying to make life better for people who have spent the last nine years having the rug pulled from under their feet. 

People are dying because of this government and people are cooking up such half arsed excuses to try not to change things. It's not the X Factor, it's people's lives. FFS. 

I'm yet to hear a single sensible reason for why someone "can't vote for Corbyn".
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#8
There is a difference between the racism held by individuals expressed in ignorant comments and supporting racist terrorists. As the editorial of three British Jewish papers stated, they recognized all racism but asked fellow British citizens to put themselves in their shoes - the worry was that this most important issue to them was being lost to Brexit and other matters.

You can use the 'what about the Tories' argument and attack the people delivering the warning on Corbyn - as the Labour party did of those that signed the recent letter to the Guardian - but the message from the British Jewish community is please dont. As they say in the article, they have a long history of being able to spot extremism and this is why they are asking us not to vote for Corbyn.

I hope therfore Corbyn is ousted and replaced by a non extremist so I can vote Labour again and I think that is the best long term outcome for the country for those of us who want a decent socialist party in power over a period of time (more than one term).
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#9
There is definitely an element of the labour party that are anti-sematic and this needs to be addressed. I think the problem that Corbyn has got is that he allied himself with Palestinian groups in the past because of his belief that Israel is the aggressor and that is not PM material. He never thought that would be an issue as he was never a contender but he finds himself in a tough situation now that could ultimately cost him and the Labour party.

I do believe he now realises that the position he has held is untenable and needs to adjust his approach. I also strongly believe that he is not racist but he does have conflicts over Israel as a state, and therefore Jews. 

I would have liked him to come out stronger in condemnation and also recognition of his position and how he plans to improve the balance in the Labour Party, however this is where he is weakest, he didn't come out strongly on Brexit originally, he seems to wait too long before committing himself to an approach (Remain, 2nd Referendum) and the ship has sailed before he has bought his ticket.

I've said before I have concerns over him as a person but we vote for a party and their policies, not an individual. Of the two main parties Labour are offering a solution to the shit we find ourselves in. It really is time for change. As I've said before, it is increasingly frustrating that with anyone else at the helm Labour would be romping this.

As for Boris, he's racist and simply doesn't realise because that's his normal setting.
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#10
Corbyn is simply not prime minister material. 

As baggy1 has put it a lot better than me above he has spent his entire political life protesting
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Very hard to then say I'm not protesting anymore I want to lead. 

Boris is shit as well just for balance!
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