Downing Street Party
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(12-08-2021, 12:09 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(12-08-2021, 12:03 PM)Shabby Russian Wrote:
(12-08-2021, 09:47 AM)Protheroe Wrote: As far as I understand Kratos, it's not even MPs. It's SPADs, civil servants and a few journos. If this is really what upsets folk, then maybe they should pay more attention to all the other shit going on.

I understand and agree with your argument that there are bigger priorities. 

But the bottom line is that we need a Govt with Integrity first and foremost and clearly we don't  have one.

And it is concerning how many people don't seem to think this is important. 

If the Govt can't even attain the basic standards of integrity, honesty and competence what chance does it have with tackling those priorities of which you speak.

That's the point Shabbs. A fucking private party does not prove a government lacks integrity - their actions IN PUBLIC have demonstrated that week after week through this entire sorry saga.

Did you not see this coming when you were at the conferences and knocking doors for them? Did you not see this when they spouted their lies over Brexit? This isn’t something that they have turned into overnight, this was their pattern over years of not giving a shit. Either you were mugged off by them or you saw it and ignored it whilst literally walking the streets for them.
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#32
(12-08-2021, 11:55 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Some are deliberately missing the point, and some wouldn't know where the point was on this thread. As Hudds said taken as a one off incident it would be send out a very poor message, but this isn't a one off is it? We have a conveyor belt of dubious decisions,  arrogance, lies, misdirections, incompetence, a lack of integrity, passing the blame onto others etc. This is even before you scrutinise the actual policies they are pursuing.

This is just another example of a government who don't seem to think any rules apply to them. We are barely a month on from them trying to change the rules so that they could let their fellow MP off. They are allegedly considering stopping judges from upholding / interpreting the law when it comes to government decisions, with the cabinet allowed to ignore, throw out any rulings that they come to that they don't agree with.

Some posters and political activists with a capital P are so jaundiced / cynical that they are comfortable with this behaviour, where a complete lack of integrity is seen as normal and ok. It isn't it erodes trust in politics as a whole, it makes trying to do the right thing ever more difficult, it makes things like lying / bending the truth ' misdirection on a scale hitherto not seen before normal, in short it damages our democracy. I don't expect anyone to be a saint, I'm certainly not, but if you seek power then surely you are their to try and make things better for your constituents and country? You are also held surely to a higher standard of behaviour? You cannot do this if you lose the trust of people, and be seen to be defending the indefensible numerous times. You are not setting an example to justify your position to lead the country.
You've nailed it there, DH. 
This party is the thin edge of a massive wedge. When you live a life of feckless irresponsibility, you will come undone.
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#33
Imagine if members of Parliament and politicians showed as much passion for real life issues, as they are about petty name calling, and point scoring over a house party that may, or may not have happened. Corrupt to the core, scumbags, the lot of them.

Surely the time and resources would be better spent debating how to improve the awful NHS service that has for too long been unfit for purpose. Or how to better deal with terror threats, and those linked with terrorism, to prevent attacks where the terrorist was known to the authorities. Or debate how to improve social care so kids aren't beaten, toruted, and murdered by their parents.

Any Labour or Lib Dem politician that has made petty comments towards Boris or the Tories, as right as they may be, are hypocritical cunts, and only care as they see an excuse to force themselves into power. They've all been at it. And have took the piss out of the public for decades.

It's about time the parliamentary structure was reformed.

The above is what boils my piss, not whether some folks dared to have a party, against covid rules, which many of the population also did.
Clarnet v2.0
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#34
(12-08-2021, 01:04 PM)baggy1 Wrote: Did you not see this coming

Well, clearly not. What type of stupid question is that?
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#35
Today we have an example of how this Govts lack of competence and integrity is harming the country.

The Health Sec was supposed to be touring all the tv and radio broadcasters, so that he could inform the country on how the Govt are trying to speed up the booster jab programme. But he is not doing it because, presumably either he or the Govt do not want him to have to answer questions on this party affair. 

The Govt has become utterly dysfunctional.
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#36
(12-08-2021, 01:14 PM)KratosBaggie Wrote: Imagine if members of Parliament and politicians showed as much passion for real life issues, as they are about petty name calling, and point scoring over a house party that may, or may not have happened. Corrupt to the core, scumbags, the lot of them.

Any Labour or Lib Dem politician that has made petty comments towards Boris or the Tories, as right as they may be, are hypocritical cunts, and only care as they see an excuse to force themselves into power. They've all been at it. And have took the piss out of the public for decades.

The above is what boils my piss, not whether some folks dared to have a party, against covid rules, which many of the population also did.

By pointing this truism out you will have it, somehow, conflated with you supporting the lot presently in power.
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#37
(12-08-2021, 01:27 PM)JOK Wrote:
(12-08-2021, 01:14 PM)KratosBaggie Wrote: Imagine if members of Parliament and politicians showed as much passion for real life issues, as they are about petty name calling, and point scoring over a house party that may, or may not have happened. Corrupt to the core, scumbags, the lot of them.

Any Labour or Lib Dem politician that has made petty comments towards Boris or the Tories, as right as they may be, are hypocritical cunts, and only care as they see an excuse to force themselves into power. They've all been at it. And have took the piss out of the public for decades.

The above is what boils my piss, not whether some folks dared to have a party, against covid rules, which many of the population also did.

By pointing this truism out you will have it, somehow, conflated with you supporting the lot presently in power.

How far we done fell.

When this can be said to excuse this Govt.
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#38
(12-08-2021, 01:16 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(12-08-2021, 01:04 PM)baggy1 Wrote: Did you not see this coming

Well, clearly not. What type of stupid question is that?

The sort of question that I ask people who have been stupid enough to be mugged off by it all. If you couldn’t see that the Coffey’s and the Patel’s of this party were in it for themselves and themselves only, or that the Williamson’s and the Hancock’s were simply useless, or that the Gove’s and Johnson’s were just bare faced liars then it’s my incredulity that asks these ‘stupid’ questions.
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#39
Wow. just seen Rees Mogg taking the piss. Utter utter cunt, but generally this is the most corrupt shower of bastards I've ever known in parliament and they just treat us with utter contempt.

When you vote for a philandering bloke with seven kids off 3 women how can you expect integrity? Seriously. Never even had loyalty to his family.

Still this is what so many idiots voted for.

And by the way we do care about the bigger issues like health and education, but we care about good character and if you turn a blind eye to this you are no better than them.

Johnson and his cronies must go, but sadly Labour will not replace them, due to the stupid left wingers who've dragged the party into a mess that the working class have left behind. Instead just more of the same old Etonions bred in the same ilk.

The government are a reflection of a valueless society where style wins over substance.
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(12-08-2021, 01:14 PM)KratosBaggie Wrote: Imagine if members of Parliament and politicians showed as much passion for real life issues, as they are about petty name calling, and point scoring over a house party that may, or may not have happened. Corrupt to the core, scumbags, the lot of them.

Surely the time and resources would be better spent debating how to improve the awful NHS service that has for too long been unfit for purpose. Or how to better deal with terror threats, and those linked with terrorism, to prevent attacks where the terrorist was known to the authorities.  Or debate how to improve social care so kids aren't beaten, toruted, and murdered by their parents.

Any Labour or Lib Dem politician that has made petty comments towards Boris or the Tories, as right as they may be, are hypocritical cunts, and only care as they see an excuse to force themselves into power. They've all been at it. And have took the piss out of the public for decades.

It's about time the parliamentary structure was reformed.

The above is what boils my piss, not whether some folks dared to have a party, against covid rules, which many of the population also did.

Josh, this is about the integrity of this countries government and its staff. If you cannot see their behaviour is intrinsically linked to the decisions, laws they make, rules or lack of they are guided by you are showing substantial ignorance. There are pages and pages of other topics to debate the policies of this government. If you want to discuss them post on those threads instead of trying to deflect on this one.
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