Big Sam poll.....
#81
(04-08-2021, 07:31 PM)Sliced Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 06:31 PM)Big Daddy Cool Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 05:57 PM)Sliced Wrote: I'm not knocking his record at lower league level, but to hit the ground running at a championship club when the only other championship management experience you have is getting spanked repeatedly at basket case clubs is a big ask.

Am I impressed with how he's done at Lincoln? Absolutely

Do I have faith that he'll be able to adapt immediately to managing a newly relegated Prem club and win us promotion on the first attempt? Absolutely not

The same concern I have about Allardyce.

Well Allardyce is already working with the squad and has experience of performing well in the Championship.

My trepidation with Appleton is due to the fact he's not done it before, whereas Allardyce a) has done it before, multiple times and b) has already shown he knows the squad well enough to recognise how to improve it. I think your reasons for the concern are different from mine. I don't really like Allardyce, but I reckon he'd be fine
Same fear for Appleton. I reckon he would get us up but would then be gone by Christmas for failing in the greed league on a ridiculous budget. We'd then look for Allardyce II to try and salvage the situation.
It's such a tough gig at the minute due to the gulf between Champ and Prem, he could go from hero to zero very quickly.
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#82
(04-09-2021, 08:56 AM)Bob Fossil Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 07:31 PM)Sliced Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 06:31 PM)Big Daddy Cool Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 05:57 PM)Sliced Wrote: I'm not knocking his record at lower league level, but to hit the ground running at a championship club when the only other championship management experience you have is getting spanked repeatedly at basket case clubs is a big ask.

Am I impressed with how he's done at Lincoln? Absolutely

Do I have faith that he'll be able to adapt immediately to managing a newly relegated Prem club and win us promotion on the first attempt? Absolutely not

The same concern I have about Allardyce.

Well Allardyce is already working with the squad and has experience of performing well in the Championship.

My trepidation with Appleton is due to the fact he's not done it before, whereas Allardyce a) has done it before, multiple times and b) has already shown he knows the squad well enough to recognise how to improve it. I think your reasons for the concern are different from mine. I don't really like Allardyce, but I reckon he'd be fine
Same fear for Appleton. I reckon he would get us up but would then be gone by Christmas for failing in the greed league on a ridiculous budget. We'd then look for Allardyce II to try and salvage the situation.
It's such a tough gig at the minute due to the gulf between Champ and Prem, he could go from hero to zero very quickly.
Rings a Croatian bell or three.
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#83
(04-09-2021, 09:21 AM)Johnnykayeengland Wrote:
(04-09-2021, 08:56 AM)Bob Fossil Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 07:31 PM)Sliced Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 06:31 PM)Big Daddy Cool Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 05:57 PM)Sliced Wrote: I'm not knocking his record at lower league level, but to hit the ground running at a championship club when the only other championship management experience you have is getting spanked repeatedly at basket case clubs is a big ask.

Am I impressed with how he's done at Lincoln? Absolutely

Do I have faith that he'll be able to adapt immediately to managing a newly relegated Prem club and win us promotion on the first attempt? Absolutely not

The same concern I have about Allardyce.

Well Allardyce is already working with the squad and has experience of performing well in the Championship.

My trepidation with Appleton is due to the fact he's not done it before, whereas Allardyce a) has done it before, multiple times and b) has already shown he knows the squad well enough to recognise how to improve it. I think your reasons for the concern are different from mine. I don't really like Allardyce, but I reckon he'd be fine
Same fear for Appleton. I reckon he would get us up but would then be gone by Christmas for failing in the greed league on a ridiculous budget. We'd then look for Allardyce II to try and salvage the situation.
It's such a tough gig at the minute due to the gulf between Champ and Prem, he could go from hero to zero very quickly.
Rings a Croatian bell or three.
A bit yes, the difference being that Bilic had far more experience and should have used the budget better. It will always by a tough job though with our financial limitations.
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#84
I'm just not sure if Allardyce would be motivated enough to manage in the Championship. He's very arrogant and probably thinks it's beneath him.
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#85
(04-09-2021, 10:35 AM)Big Daddy Cool Wrote: I'm just not sure if Allardyce would be motivated enough to manage in the Championship. He's very arrogant and probably thinks it's beneath him.

I think it's more likely to be the long slog that is against him.  An extra 8 league games just for starters and there's barely any relief from start to finish, plus the possible play-offs.  He looks more than his age and I just think he would see it as too much too late in life.
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