Lots of Labour MPs quitting now
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(02-19-2019, 11:03 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote: If we are talking about political pygmies I'm afraid the shadow cabinet is full of them. How else could you explain the inability to land any telling blows on the .most incompetent and divisive government in living history.

But tHE tORIES were going to be running scared when Corbyn took over, weren't they? Wink
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Just so I'm sure I understand this, seven MPs leave the Labour party because amongst other things, they want a second referendum, but all refuse to hold a by-election. Well well Smile
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(02-19-2019, 11:03 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 10:46 AM)LockHard Wrote:
(02-18-2019, 01:58 PM)Solihull Throstle Wrote: I have also left the Labour Party today but I think it has gone under the radar of most of the big news agencies. Antisemitism, cult of Corbyn and stance on Brexit have done it for me. Shame as I will always be a socialist.

The irony of these political pygmies denouncing Corbyn as a racist is that within hours Smith was insulting people with a 'tint'.  

One of the seven, Luciana Berger, who falsely said the Labour Party is racist is herself an adherent of a racist ideology.

If we are talking about political pygmies I'm afraid the shadow cabinet is full of them. How else could you explain the inability to land any telling blows on the .most incompetent and divisive government in living history.

Fair point that, both front benches are warmed by @rses without portfolio
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(02-19-2019, 11:13 AM)The Real PK Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 11:03 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote: If we are talking about political pygmies I'm afraid the shadow cabinet is full of them. How else could you explain the inability to land any telling blows on the .most incompetent and divisive government in living history.

But tHE tORIES were going to be running scared when Corbyn took over, weren't they? Wink

The prospect excited me at the time. It hasn't worked. I'm being honest.

(02-19-2019, 11:19 AM)cornishbaggie Wrote: Just so I'm sure I understand this, seven MPs leave the Labour party because amongst other things, they want a second referendum, but all refuse to hold a by-election. Well well Smile

Fair point. Might be interesting if they did. They'd probably get my vote if I was in their constituency.
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(02-19-2019, 11:34 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 11:13 AM)The Real PK Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 11:03 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote: If we are talking about political pygmies I'm afraid the shadow cabinet is full of them. How else could you explain the inability to land any telling blows on the .most incompetent and divisive government in living history.

But tHE tORIES were going to be running scared when Corbyn took over, weren't they? Wink

The prospect excited me at the time. It hasn't worked. I'm being honest.

Fair cop chap.

The thing that baffles me however is that there are so many ardent followers/supporters who are willing to just deny any wrong doing or any problems within the Labour party. It's patently obvious there are, and there are within the Conservative govt also. The whole system is absolutely fucked. Too many lies told to cover up too many lies and half truths, no one knows what's going on. It's almost as if it was a plan set out from the outset around 3 years ago....!
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(02-19-2019, 11:03 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote: If we are talking about political pygmies I'm afraid the shadow cabinet is full of them. How else could you explain the inability to land any telling blows on the .most incompetent and divisive government in living history.

Corbyn increased the LP vote in 2017 by 9% over the 2015 election. But winning elections isn't everything in politics. Bliar's government had two terms with 150+ majorities and managed to increase the gap between rich and poor. To me that's not a success for the LP. 

My siblings stayed in the LP but I left after Bliar when it became clear we were just Tory Lite.
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(02-19-2019, 12:50 PM)LockHard Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 11:03 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote: If we are talking about political pygmies I'm afraid the shadow cabinet is full of them. How else could you explain the inability to land any telling blows on the .most incompetent and divisive government in living history.

Corbyn increased the LP vote in 2017 by 9% over the 2015 election. But winning elections isn't everything in politics. Bliar's government had two terms with 150+ majorities and managed to increase the gap between rich and poor. To me that's not a success for the LP. 

My siblings stayed in the LP but I left after Bliar when it became clear we were just Tory Lite.

No disrespect mate but the Tory lite tag does my head in. I am no Blairite and consider my politics closer to Corbyn's. I like the guy but he is a poor leader surrounded by poor calibre politicians. Would like to see the figures for the increase in the wealth gap under Blair though. Perhaps some factors are out of the government's control though. What I do know is that money was pumped into education and did make a difference under Blair. I believe the same was true for health. It was the foreign policy that was a disgrace. Back to Tory Lite; I'd rather have a centrist Labour government than these evil bastard Tories any day.
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how many of them are labour friends of isreal
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(02-19-2019, 02:23 PM)spyro 123 Wrote: how many of them are labour friends of isreal

A other easy throw-away line to go with the Labour Lite. Do you think there might be other reasons why they left though? And why lifelong socialists like myself are also leaving?
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(02-19-2019, 01:48 PM)Solihull Throstle Wrote: No disrespect mate but the Tory lite tag does my head in. I am no Blairite and consider my politics closer to Corbyn's. I like the guy but he is a poor leader surrounded by poor calibre politicians. Would like to see the figures for the increase in the wealth gap under Blair though. Perhaps some factors are out of the government's control though. What I do know is that money was pumped into education and did make a difference under Blair. I believe the same was true for health. It was the foreign policy that was a disgrace. Back to Tory Lite; I'd rather have a centrist Labour government than these evil bastard Tories any day.

Here you go.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004...n.politics

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/33...Blair.html
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