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Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - hudds - 03-21-2023
"On the way home from a recent match, Marriner recalled how, in 2013, he’d awarded a soft stoppage time penalty to Chelsea when one of their players went down in the box. The reaction of the opponents instantly told him he’d made a mistake. The Stamford Bridge crowd had got to him and he had made the decision too quickly. “I was praying they were going to miss!” he said. (They scored.)"
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/21/inside-world-premier-league-football-referees-pgmol-howard-webb-andre-marriner-darren-england
It's The Guardian so Cunningham Is Maggie can ignore and read the side of a bus instead.....
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - Birdman1811 - 03-21-2023
That decision alone had massive ramifications for the club. Had we won that game, Clarke may have won the internal struggle against McDonut, the fact we didn't, the complete drop in confidence from everyone after and the way McDonut used it to start his silly project, was the beginning of the chain of events leading us to Pulis, Pardew and relegation.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - Ted Maul - 03-21-2023
Was only talking about this the other day... weirdly, it's good that I've got over it now!
This was the sort of decision that put weight behind the case for introducing VAR. However, do you honestly think VAR would have overturned that decision? I don't.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - DemonicBaggie - 03-21-2023
(03-21-2023, 09:35 AM)Birdman1811 Wrote: That decision alone had massive ramifications for the club. Had we won that game, Clarke may have won the internal struggle against McDonut, the fact we didn't, the complete drop in confidence from everyone after and the way McDonut used it to start his silly project, was the beginning of the chain of events leading us to Pulis, Pardew and relegation.
Absolutely, it was a turning point and the start of our steady decline. Hindsight shows we had hit our Prem ceiling in New Year 2013 but that hideous penalty was like a bullet to the collective head of our club and the confidence and purpose of the team evaporated. Strange how so much can hang on a moment.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - Dumbo - 03-21-2023
It was the start of a decline but the Pulis years were comfortable tbf. TP turned us into somewhat of a force at home and nobody wanted to come to The Hawthorns and play against our wet plays. We were a good team for a few years under him before the wheels fell off and he was kept on longer than he should have been.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - baggiebloke - 03-21-2023
I was in a pub in Brierley Hill.
Firstly disbelief. Then anger.
Seal cunt.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - Birdman1811 - 03-21-2023
(03-21-2023, 10:02 AM)Dumbo Wrote: It was the start of a decline but the Pulis years were comfortable tbf. TP turned us into somewhat of a force at home and nobody wanted to come to The Hawthorns and play against our wet plays. We were a good team for a few years under him before the wheels fell off and he was kept on longer than he should have been.
Oh absolutely, but hiring Pulis was not something that benefitted us long term, he was held on for way too long, leading to relegation.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - throstle - 03-21-2023
Brings back horrible memories of standing in the away end and watching in disbelief Popov in the last 30 seconds busting a gut to get to a loose ball that was going out for an Albion throw halfway inside Chelsea's half.
Instead of letting the ball go out and killing time with an Albion throw, Popov tried a ridiculous sliding shot from the touchline that Cech gratefully gathered and immediately started the move that led to the penalty.
Popov had only come on in the 89th minute. Always considered that substitution cost Clarke his job.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - Man from delmonte - 03-21-2023
(03-21-2023, 10:02 AM)Dumbo Wrote: It was the start of a decline but the Pulis years were comfortable tbf. TP turned us into somewhat of a force at home and nobody wanted to come to The Hawthorns and play against our wet plays. We were a good team for a few years under him before the wheels fell off and he was kept on longer than he should have been.
I always felt that one of the problems under Pulis was the transfer policy of bringing in older, more established pros. It works for a certain period of time but once you have an ageing squad with not a great deal of re-sale value it's so difficult to rebuild particularly for a club of our size without any financial backing. Exactly what happened to Burnley last year.
With the benefit of hindsight Pulis ideally would have been gone the summer before he was sacked. He needed that money to pay off his court case and I always felt was angling for the sack by the end.
RE: Mariner and THAT penalty decision v Chelsea - chasetownbaggie - 03-21-2023
What was a Villa can doing reffing one of our games though?