(09-11-2025, 10:05 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 09:48 AM)Jacko Wrote: You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Oh fuck 

(09-11-2025, 10:11 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 10:05 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 09:48 AM)Jacko Wrote: You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Not really it shows woeful judgement yet again by the PM and his advisers that he was employed in the first place.

(09-11-2025, 10:05 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 09:48 AM)Jacko Wrote: You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

(09-11-2025, 10:38 AM)Jacko Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 10:05 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 09:48 AM)Jacko Wrote: You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Selective.

Anyway appears he's gone. More great judgement by the guy who brought you the housing secretary who doesn't pay enough SDLT. The homelessness minister who made people homeless. The corrupt anti-corruption minister and the fraudster Transport secretary. Due process for the win.

(09-11-2025, 07:05 AM)Pontificator Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 06:21 AM)Protheroe Wrote: Any Labour Leader unwilling to address the fundamental problems facing the country was doomed to fail. I did predict on here that Labour would be the most unpopular government in history within 18 months. Constantly shooting yourself in the foot is not helping either.

Your view of the fundamental problems have never wavered whatever the government and for however long. The slashing and burning of the Cameron/Osborne government was exactly what you and the classical liberals were advocating at a time when Nobel prize winning economists were suggesting the exact opposite policy. This was the midwife of BREXIT and the economic and social divsion that has literally ravaged the country. You also gave your full throated support to a party that has never taken the responsibility for 14 of the last 15 disastrous years. It practically sent your mentor Steve Baker into nervous breakdown. As far as Mandelson is concerned I do feel some sympathy for him, he wasn't the most well known figure that was completely taken in by Epstein. If you don't undertsand how abusers like Epstein and Saville operate you don't undertsand anything. Don't forget your Maggie was taken in by Saville, should her remains be dug up and thrown in a skip.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/media/article/saviles-affectionate-letters-to-margaret-thatcher-revealed-57fw6v0qdfg

(09-11-2025, 10:47 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 10:38 AM)Jacko Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 10:05 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 09:48 AM)Jacko Wrote: You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Selective.

Anyway appears he's gone. More great judgement by the guy who brought you the housing secretary who doesn't pay enough SDLT. The homelessness minister who made people homeless. The corrupt anti-corruption minister and the fraudster Transport secretary. Due process for the win.

Get over yourself. Is this the point where I make reference to a sexual act between you and Dekka, or something about me living rent free - I'm not sure on how these 'debates' are meant to go now.

(09-11-2025, 11:38 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 10:47 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 10:38 AM)Jacko Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 10:05 AM)baggy1 Wrote:

(09-11-2025, 09:48 AM)Jacko Wrote: You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Selective.

Anyway appears he's gone. More great judgement by the guy who brought you the housing secretary who doesn't pay enough SDLT. The homelessness minister who made people homeless. The corrupt anti-corruption minister and the fraudster Transport secretary. Due process for the win.

Get over yourself. Is this the point where I make reference to a sexual act between you and Dekka, or something about me living rent free - I'm not sure on how these 'debates' are meant to go now.

Dragging me into the conversation again I see.