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RE: Takeover - Kit Kat Chunky - 01-02-2024
The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
RE: Takeover - BurleyBaggie - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
RE: Takeover - Fulham Fallout - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
And not forgetting substantially increasing ST and match ticket prices. I knew you’d like that idea
RE: Takeover - NewWanker - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
Is Adam the new Bannan?
(01-02-2024, 05:48 AM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
And not forgetting substantially increasing ST and match ticket prices. I knew you’d like that idea
By substantially, you mean around 50%? Currently let's say we're doing 21k at an average of £380 (which obviously we're not), that's circa £8m, raising them to around £550 average and assuming the same sales figures only gets you around £3m -£4m extra and you're then assuming that all of the 21k would renew, which I suspect wouldn't happen. You'd probably drop 3 - 4 k in sales (so you're looking around an extra 1-2m, but now you've potentially lost 3-4k of your fans)... pretty much negating any extra income that the increase would have bought...
increasing a modest amount say £50 (so an average around £430), you'll probably lose a few, but the increase will bring in just shy of an extra 1m.... so let's say you put off 500 people, that kind of level of increase is probably far more sensible.
It's not just headline ticket prices that matter, think of an extra 3/4k people now no longer buying merchandise and watery piss beer and microwaved pies...
Then again, I don't have any financial qualifications, I just think putting fans off this day in age, for a negligible benefit is crazy.
Hopefully it didn't go over your head though...
Happy New one.
RE: Takeover - Fulham Fallout - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 08:08 AM)NewWanker Wrote:(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
Is Adam the new Bannan?
(01-02-2024, 05:48 AM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
And not forgetting substantially increasing ST and match ticket prices. I knew you’d like that idea
By substantially, you mean around 50%? Currently let's say we're doing 21k at an average of £380 (which obviously we're not), that's circa £8m, raising them to around £550 average and assuming the same sales figures only gets you around £3m -£4m extra and you're then assuming that all of the 21k would renew, which I suspect wouldn't happen. You'd probably drop 3 - 4 k in sales (so you're looking around an extra 1-2m, but now you've potentially lost 3-4k of your fans)... pretty much negating any extra income that the increase would have bought...
increasing a modest amount say £50 (so an average around £430), you'll probably lose a few, but the increase will bring in just shy of an extra 1m.... so let's say you put off 500 people, that kind of level of increase is probably far more sensible.
It's not just headline ticket prices that matter, think of an extra 3/4k people now no longer buying merchandise and watery piss beer and microwaved pies...
Then again, I don't have any financial qualifications, I just think putting fans off this day in age, for a negligible benefit is crazy.
Hopefully it didn't go over your head though...
Happy New one.
My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I wrote my post.
Although, I did know our tickets were cheap in comparison to other Champ teams, but I didn't realise we were the 3rd cheapest. Shirley that is one area of possibility the new owners will look at to increase revenue.
You will notice a correlation between the price of the tickets and league positions.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/473337/championship-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket/
RE: Takeover - Derek Hardballs - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 08:47 AM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-02-2024, 08:08 AM)NewWanker Wrote:(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
Is Adam the new Bannan?
(01-02-2024, 05:48 AM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
And not forgetting substantially increasing ST and match ticket prices. I knew you’d like that idea
By substantially, you mean around 50%? Currently let's say we're doing 21k at an average of £380 (which obviously we're not), that's circa £8m, raising them to around £550 average and assuming the same sales figures only gets you around £3m -£4m extra and you're then assuming that all of the 21k would renew, which I suspect wouldn't happen. You'd probably drop 3 - 4 k in sales (so you're looking around an extra 1-2m, but now you've potentially lost 3-4k of your fans)... pretty much negating any extra income that the increase would have bought...
increasing a modest amount say £50 (so an average around £430), you'll probably lose a few, but the increase will bring in just shy of an extra 1m.... so let's say you put off 500 people, that kind of level of increase is probably far more sensible.
It's not just headline ticket prices that matter, think of an extra 3/4k people now no longer buying merchandise and watery piss beer and microwaved pies...
Then again, I don't have any financial qualifications, I just think putting fans off this day in age, for a negligible benefit is crazy.
Hopefully it didn't go over your head though...
Happy New one.
My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I wrote my post.
Although, I did know our tickets were cheap in comparison to other Champ teams, but I didn't realise we were the 3rd cheapest. Shirley that is one area of possibility the new owners will look at to increase revenue.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/473337/championship-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket/
The club sits in one of the most deprived / lowest income areas in the country, raising season ticket prices is not going to encourage local people to attend.
RE: Takeover - Fulham Fallout - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 08:49 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:(01-02-2024, 08:47 AM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-02-2024, 08:08 AM)NewWanker Wrote:(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:(01-02-2024, 02:05 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: The only thing a Takeover will do is give stability. It's 3-5 years to cleanse our FFP, unless we go up
That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
Is Adam the new Bannan?
(01-02-2024, 05:48 AM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-02-2024, 03:03 AM)BurleyBaggie Wrote: That’s partly accurate. However, if we can increase are revenues in areas like sponsorship and stadium naming rights (generated through the new owners brand / reach) then we can offset.
And not forgetting substantially increasing ST and match ticket prices. I knew you’d like that idea
By substantially, you mean around 50%? Currently let's say we're doing 21k at an average of £380 (which obviously we're not), that's circa £8m, raising them to around £550 average and assuming the same sales figures only gets you around £3m -£4m extra and you're then assuming that all of the 21k would renew, which I suspect wouldn't happen. You'd probably drop 3 - 4 k in sales (so you're looking around an extra 1-2m, but now you've potentially lost 3-4k of your fans)... pretty much negating any extra income that the increase would have bought...
increasing a modest amount say £50 (so an average around £430), you'll probably lose a few, but the increase will bring in just shy of an extra 1m.... so let's say you put off 500 people, that kind of level of increase is probably far more sensible.
It's not just headline ticket prices that matter, think of an extra 3/4k people now no longer buying merchandise and watery piss beer and microwaved pies...
Then again, I don't have any financial qualifications, I just think putting fans off this day in age, for a negligible benefit is crazy.
Hopefully it didn't go over your head though...
Happy New one.
My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I wrote my post.
Although, I did know our tickets were cheap in comparison to other Champ teams, but I didn't realise we were the 3rd cheapest. Shirley that is one area of possibility the new owners will look at to increase revenue.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/473337/championship-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket/
The club sits in one of the most deprived / lowest income areas in the country, raising season ticket prices is not going to encourage local people to attend.
Do you live in B71 or anywhere near Derek? Going off this dumP, a lot of the supporters live well away from B71. The club can easily work where the bulk of their fanbase live, from the data they currently hold.
RE: Takeover - NewWanker - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 08:47 AM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I wrote my post.
Although, I did know our tickets were cheap in comparison to other Champ teams, but I didn't realise we were the 3rd cheapest. Shirley that is one area of possibility the new owners will look at to increase revenue.
You will notice a correlation between the price of the tickets and league positions.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/473337/championship-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket/
I knew, but couldn't resist
I was surprised that the STs are as 'cheap' as they are too. I thought they were around £420 already...
RE: Takeover - GunsOfNavarone - 01-02-2024
Adult season tickets are £349.
RE: Takeover - NewWanker - 01-02-2024
(01-02-2024, 09:04 AM)GunsOfNavarone Wrote: Adult season tickets are £349.
Depending where you sit, as per every season pretty much ever... which was why I said average.
£350 - £470 is the current full season price range. The half season tickets start at £209, which doesn't seem like half... guess we've got more games at home in the second half?