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RE: UK Covid death toll - Birdman1811 - 03-15-2022
(03-14-2022, 10:39 PM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote:(03-14-2022, 02:58 PM)Birdman1811 Wrote: Well, we're back in panic mode in the hospital I work for, so many bays and wards closed due to covid.
Would you say that those people are gravelly ill, Birdy, or just occupying beds that should be used for other purposes if these people weren't ill?
I wouldn't know since I'm not clinical, I just see the numbers and the status of the hospital.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 03-15-2022
There's going to be two elements to this as not all of the patients who have covid are in to be treated for covid. The 1st problem is that they have to be segregated from the non-covid patients e.g. there will need too be two separate cardio units etc, this is going to put a strain on the normal workload for each department. And then there is the restriction this places on visiting, my MIL was in hospital last month following a heart attack; She was confused and needed her family there to help understand what was happening, whilst we have high numbers of cases there will be ongoing restrictions for visiting.
And although the severeness of the condition is in a much better place than it was we still have a high number of cases which will lead to the higher number of hospitalisation. The whole timing of removing restrictions was wrong and purely to save the career of the bloke making the decision rather than making it for the right reason. The logical point to remove restrictions was the Easter break when the weather is better.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Kit Kat Chunky - 03-15-2022
(03-15-2022, 10:01 AM)baggy1 Wrote: There's going to be two elements to this as not all of the patients who have covid are in to be treated for covid. The 1st problem is that they have to be segregated from the non-covid patients e.g. there will need too be two separate cardio units etc, this is going to put a strain on the normal workload for each department. And then there is the restriction this places on visiting, my MIL was in hospital last month following a heart attack; She was confused and needed her family there to help understand what was happening, whilst we have high numbers of cases there will be ongoing restrictions for visiting.
And although the severeness of the condition is in a much better place than it was we still have a high number of cases which will lead to the higher number of hospitalisation. The whole timing of removing restrictions was wrong and purely to save the career of the bloke making the decision rather than making it for the right reason. The logical point to remove restrictions was the Easter break when the weather is better.
It will be interesting to see what McKrankie announces this afternoon.
ZOE reporting 245K cases daily. If this carries on, there will have to be yet another U turn.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 03-19-2022
Some good and not so good news I heard this morning, the numbers in hospital are going up by nearly 25% week on week but apparently 2/3rds to 3/4s of them are not being admitted for covid. It does bring a problem of keeping them separate from the non-covid patients but it does indicate that the situation isn’t as bad as having all (or even the majority) of those admissions purely for covid.
The only bummer with it all being so rife is we are looking after my MIL who has COPD this weekend and my missus has just tested positive. This will be the real test of how it impacts.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Kit Kat Chunky - 03-29-2022
ZOE Covid data showing first reduction in the present wave, with estimated 350K cases today.
Fingers crossed the wave has peaked, and we will start to go down.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 03-29-2022
Good news indeed Chunk, it was obviously political to remove restrictions when they did, and Easter (or the end of March) was always the obvious point in time to do it. The wife has tested negative for the 1st time in 11 days today as well, strangely she has been around her mom (who has COPD) although not in too close contact and the MIL has been ok - I've heard that having bloodthinners or simple paracetamol regularly helps. It really is strange how some get affected and others not - I've been around the missus since she got it (a few nights in the spare bed) but have been ok so far.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Kit Kat Chunky - 04-01-2022
Hope everyone is OK, B1.
Looks like we have reached the peak of the wave. Of course we won't really know as you can't get tested any more.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 03:44 PM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: Hope everyone is OK, B1.
Looks like we have reached the peak of the wave. Of course we won't really know as you can't get tested any more.
Thanks Chunk, the missus tested positive for 11 days in the end and was off her feet for a few days but nothing serious. The MIL was ok despite being in the vicinity a few times but it has given us confidence that we are ok if we are sensible.
Loads I know have got it this time which shows how it's flying around, but looks like the hospitals have survived, I'd say this has us in a good place going forward.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Kit Kat Chunky - 04-01-2022
(04-01-2022, 04:01 PM)baggy1 Wrote:(04-01-2022, 03:44 PM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: Hope everyone is OK, B1.
Looks like we have reached the peak of the wave. Of course we won't really know as you can't get tested any more.
Thanks Chunk, the missus tested positive for 11 days in the end and was off her feet for a few days but nothing serious. The MIL was ok despite being in the vicinity a few times but it has given us confidence that we are ok if we are sensible.
Loads I know have got it this time which shows how it's flying around, but looks like the hospitals have survived, I'd say this has us in a good place going forward.
I agree, I think we just have to ride this out, and hope that we will have c40M with natural immunity for next winter.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Protheroe - 05-09-2022
Did I miss the thread on the WHO Report on Covid that finds the UK did "alright" in comparison with most other developed nations? I thought you lot would be all over it?
I've deliberately picked The Guardian's take on this for you all: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/08/sweden-japan-uk-debates-over-who-had-good-covid-wont-end
A particularly telling line is "The stringency of mitigation measures does not seem to be a particularly strong predictor of excess deaths."