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RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - Squid - 02-12-2026
Also, there is a massive, massive difference between an adult making choices in terms of their gender identity and the various consequences of any medical treatment and a child doing the same. There's been enough whistle-blowing about gender medicine and enough detransitioners speaking out to know that there are too many gender clinics telling children with numerous other issues, that changing their gender will make them truly happy and all their other problems go away. When that turns out not to be case, it can be pretty devastating for the child.
The other issue (which again has been spoken about for a long time), is the role social media plays. It would seem that the perpetrator spent years talking to adults on the internet about wanting to be "petite like girls in anime". Unfortunately, instead of telling him to go outside, they seem to encouraged such delusions.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - SW4Baggie - 02-12-2026
(02-12-2026, 06:01 PM)Jacko Wrote: Transgenderism and any associated dysphoria are indeed mental health issues.
Someone needs to tell the WHO, APA and DSM….
(02-12-2026, 06:21 PM)Squid Wrote: Also, there is a massive, massive difference between an adult making choices in terms of their gender identity and the various consequences of any medical treatment and a child doing the same. There's been enough whistle-blowing about gender medicine and enough detransitioners speaking out to know that there are too many gender clinics telling children with numerous other issues, that changing their gender will make them truly happy and all their other problems go away. When that turns out not to be case, it can be pretty devastating for the child.
The other issue (which again has been spoken about for a long time), is the role social media plays. It would seem that the perpetrator spent years talking to adults on the internet about wanting to be "petite like girls in anime". Unfortunately, instead of telling him to go outside, they seem to encouraged such delusions.
Is there any evidence that the gender reassignment treatment led to the shooter doing this? I mean millions of people receive some form affirming care without going on killing sprees
Should we not be asking questions of other mental illness care and gun laws?
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - Squid - 02-12-2026
(02-12-2026, 07:49 PM)SW4Baggie Wrote:(02-12-2026, 06:01 PM)Jacko Wrote: Transgenderism and any associated dysphoria are indeed mental health issues.
Someone needs to tell the WHO, APA and DSM….
(02-12-2026, 06:21 PM)Squid Wrote: Also, there is a massive, massive difference between an adult making choices in terms of their gender identity and the various consequences of any medical treatment and a child doing the same. There's been enough whistle-blowing about gender medicine and enough detransitioners speaking out to know that there are too many gender clinics telling children with numerous other issues, that changing their gender will make them truly happy and all their other problems go away. When that turns out not to be case, it can be pretty devastating for the child.
The other issue (which again has been spoken about for a long time), is the role social media plays. It would seem that the perpetrator spent years talking to adults on the internet about wanting to be "petite like girls in anime". Unfortunately, instead of telling him to go outside, they seem to encouraged such delusions.
Is there any evidence that the gender reassignment treatment led to the shooter doing this? I mean millions of people receive some form affirming care without going on killing sprees
Should we not be asking questions of other mental illness care and gun laws?
You are conflating children and adults. The recent NHS Cass Review found that the evidence based for gender affirming care in children and adolescents to be very weak. Meanwhile in New York, a woman has just been awarded $2Million for malpractice after surgeons performed a double mastectomy on her when she was 16 and thought that she wanted to be male. That's the condition of "gender affirming care".
If, as I suspect, the Tumbler Ridge shooter turns out to be someone who's many mental health problems were ignored in favour of catering to their delusions - and wanting to be a small and petite anime girl is a delusion, then saying "Lots of other people are fine, nothing to see here" isn't an adequate response.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - Jacko - 02-12-2026
(02-12-2026, 07:49 PM)SW4Baggie Wrote:(02-12-2026, 06:01 PM)Jacko Wrote: Transgenderism and any associated dysphoria are indeed mental health issues.
Someone needs to tell the WHO, APA and DSM….
They'll catch on, eventually.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - PatelsPlatoon - 02-13-2026
(02-12-2026, 11:07 PM)Jacko Wrote:(02-12-2026, 07:49 PM)SW4Baggie Wrote:(02-12-2026, 06:01 PM)Jacko Wrote: Transgenderism and any associated dysphoria are indeed mental health issues.
Someone needs to tell the WHO, APA and DSM….
They'll catch on, eventually.
As someone who sees myself liberal and tolerant I find the conversation over this all a bit hard to get my head around.
It's pretty clear many of these people are mentally ill, possibly due to traumatic upbringings. the argument that they are all mentally ill is also open for debate.
It doesn't mean be intolerant or unkind, but let's say it as it is. The realms of having your vitals hacked off and putting on that little red dress is not, I would say, normal sane behavior.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - tHEgLASSdOORS - 02-13-2026
The conversation is far bigger than the actual issue. As is the case here.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - PatelsPlatoon - 02-13-2026
(02-13-2026, 09:45 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote: The conversation is far bigger than the actual issue. As is the case here.
Yes. I have a kind of theory on it, as someone middle ground and who does my own research into things I'm interested in. It's simply the far right loons want to make out that anyone who isn't like them is obsessed with such issues.
I'm sure the Daily Mail, GB News spends all days frantically looking for these stories and hoping to find an angry tweet etc from a disenchanted lesbian etc.
sadly these tactics seem to be working because so many people are dog shite thick.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - SW4Baggie - 02-13-2026
(02-12-2026, 09:53 PM)Squid Wrote:(02-12-2026, 07:49 PM)SW4Baggie Wrote:(02-12-2026, 06:01 PM)Jacko Wrote: Transgenderism and any associated dysphoria are indeed mental health issues.
Someone needs to tell the WHO, APA and DSM….
(02-12-2026, 06:21 PM)Squid Wrote: Also, there is a massive, massive difference between an adult making choices in terms of their gender identity and the various consequences of any medical treatment and a child doing the same. There's been enough whistle-blowing about gender medicine and enough detransitioners speaking out to know that there are too many gender clinics telling children with numerous other issues, that changing their gender will make them truly happy and all their other problems go away. When that turns out not to be case, it can be pretty devastating for the child.
The other issue (which again has been spoken about for a long time), is the role social media plays. It would seem that the perpetrator spent years talking to adults on the internet about wanting to be "petite like girls in anime". Unfortunately, instead of telling him to go outside, they seem to encouraged such delusions.
Is there any evidence that the gender reassignment treatment led to the shooter doing this? I mean millions of people receive some form affirming care without going on killing sprees
Should we not be asking questions of other mental illness care and gun laws?
You are conflating children and adults. The recent NHS Cass Review found that the evidence based for gender affirming care in children and adolescents to be very weak. Meanwhile in New York, a woman has just been awarded $2Million for malpractice after surgeons performed a double mastectomy on her when she was 16 and thought that she wanted to be male. That's the condition of "gender affirming care".
If, as I suspect, the Tumbler Ridge shooter turns out to be someone who's many mental health problems were ignored in favour of catering to their delusions - and wanting to be a small and petite anime girl is a delusion, then saying "Lots of other people are fine, nothing to see here" isn't an adequate response.
Yes, but as per the evidence given by the authorities in Canada who are investigating this case, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest the killer's actions were the result of, or related to their gender affirmation - so unless you've got some evidence you should be sharing with the authorities in Canada, it's not advisable to stir up controversy. Right now the person linking one or 2 incidents and generalising to all is you, not me.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - tHEgLASSdOORS - 02-13-2026
(02-13-2026, 10:02 AM)PatelsPlatoon Wrote:(02-13-2026, 09:45 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote: The conversation is far bigger than the actual issue. As is the case here.
Yes. I have a kind of theory on it, as someone middle ground and who does my own research into things I'm interested in. It's simply the far right loons want to make out that anyone who isn't like them is obsessed with such issues.
I'm sure the Daily Mail, GB News spends all days frantically looking for these stories and hoping to find an angry tweet etc from a disenchanted lesbian etc.
sadly these tactics seem to be working because so many people are dog shite thick.
About right.
If you worked out the actual ratio of children it genuinely affects compared to the attention it gets and the other issues we could focus on that affect so many more it’s crazy.
As is the notion that it’s having some kind of huge tangible impact on society.
RE: Tumbler Ridge, Canada. - Protheroe - 02-13-2026
(02-12-2026, 09:53 PM)Squid Wrote: If, as I suspect, the Tumbler Ridge shooter turns out to be someone who's many mental health problems were ignored in favour of catering to their delusions - and wanting to be a small and petite anime girl is a delusion, then saying "Lots of other people are fine, nothing to see here" isn't an adequate response.
The only personal experience I have of a person transitioning is the child of a friend of mine. The child also has multiple mental health issues and has been sectioned twice. People encouraging this in kids whose brains nor bodies have matured need locking up.