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RE: UK Covid death toll - Birdman1811 - 08-26-2021
Still wearing my mask, even though I'm exempt and have been from the start.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggiebuckster - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 10:51 AM)baggy1 Wrote:Isn't it imperative to wear a mask against Millwall - along with a hoodie to ensure that you look hard and are part of some 'ultras' group(08-26-2021, 10:14 AM)baggiebuckster Wrote: It is obvious that the majority are done with mask wearing based on my experiences attending 3 Albion league matches over the last week. The number of people on the concourses at our place and especially at Blackburn without masks was around 90% I would estimate.
I'd go higher than that bb, I carried mine in without putting on and went through the concourse straight up to my seat. I must have seen 3 or 4 being worn and it was pretty packed. It's putting me off to be honest, I chose not to go to the Luton game mainly because of traffic but I didn't need much convincing and went to the Sheff Utd game but didn't go last night (even though I had a ticket). We've got a few weeks before Millwall which gives time to see how things are going.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 11:23 AM)baggiebuckster Wrote:(08-26-2021, 10:51 AM)baggy1 Wrote:Isn't it imperative to wear a mask against Millwall - along with a hoodie to ensure that you look hard and are part of some 'ultras' group(08-26-2021, 10:14 AM)baggiebuckster Wrote: It is obvious that the majority are done with mask wearing based on my experiences attending 3 Albion league matches over the last week. The number of people on the concourses at our place and especially at Blackburn without masks was around 90% I would estimate.
I'd go higher than that bb, I carried mine in without putting on and went through the concourse straight up to my seat. I must have seen 3 or 4 being worn and it was pretty packed. It's putting me off to be honest, I chose not to go to the Luton game mainly because of traffic but I didn't need much convincing and went to the Sheff Utd game but didn't go last night (even though I had a ticket). We've got a few weeks before Millwall which gives time to see how things are going.
I'm wearing my skull mask especially for the occasion
RE: UK Covid death toll - Derek Hardballs - 08-27-2021
Barely any restrictions another stupid idea from Williams and Javid!
Falling behind EU without any nuanced plans for the winter?
From the left leaning Telegraph
[url=https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/europe-pulling-ahead-britain-great-covid-race/amp/][/url]
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 09-02-2021
(08-26-2021, 08:10 AM)baggy1 Wrote:(07-21-2021, 03:14 PM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 5th November)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 6th January)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1,032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
2nd June - 801 (1.08 x pw)
9th June - 876 (1.09 x pw)
16th June - 1,057 (1.21 x pw)
23rd June - 1,255 (1.19 x pw)
30th June - 1,500 (1.2 x pw)
7th July - 2,144 (1.43 x pw)
14th July - 3,110 (1.45 x pw)
21st July - 4,063 (1.31 x pw)
28th July - 5182 (1.28 x pw)
4th Aug - 4,944 (0.95 x pw)
11th Aug - 5,073 (1.03 x pw)
18th Aug - 5,514 (1.09 x pw)
25th Aug - 5,922 (1.07 x pw)
1st Sept - 6,236 (1.05 x pw)
Another week and another rise in the numbers in hospital albeit a small one (7% - about 400). The point that does concern me is that this should be the period where we are seeing low numbers based on schools being off and we are able to get ventilation into buildings and get out and about more, rather than being cooped up. This time last year we had 500 in hospital and now we have nearly 6k, which we can cope with but once schools go back and we start to close the windows and head back indoors then, in theory the spread will increase and we are not at a low enough base to manage a sharp increase. Last year we started to see a rise in numbers from mid-september which is three or four weeks away so buckle up because there is very little we can do now.
I am pleased to see that they have extended the vaccinations out to the 16 and 17 year olds now but it has thrown the comparable data out a bit. We are just short of 88% of the population that have had at least 1 jab which is great but we need to get that number as high as possible. There are over 6.5M people 16 or over that have not had the 1st jab, we only need 0.5% of those to need hospital care and we will have over 30k in hospital - it is so important that people step forward to get the jab if they haven't. If people don't want it for genuine reasons then so be it, but those that have the approach that 'it doesn't matter', or ' it won't affect me' need to think again.
The facts are simple - we have 1.5k more people in hospital than we did a month ago and 4.5k than 2 months ago and numbers are rising week on week. We can bury our head in the sand until we actually take the hit, or we can put some minor restrictions in place now, mask wearing mandated in all public spaces, testing or vaccination to get into events or venues as a start.
Another week and another rise and again a small one (5% - about 300). This gets repetitive but we are, in theory, in the good period for transmission and we are still increasing. The 2nd week in September 2020 saw a 25% rise in hospitalisations after 5 months of falling numbers, by the end of September we had 2k in hospital, an increase of 4 times during the month, by the end of October we had nearly 10k in hospital, an increase of 5 times during the month. We should be insulated from that to a degree with the vaccinations but lets not be surprised when increases happen this year and it would be good to see some action to prevent any rise but we appear to be heading into this without too much of a worry. I genuinely hope that I am the one surprised at the end of September.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Johnny akes - 09-08-2021
Would be interesting to see the hospitalizations broken down into age ranges - is there a majority now of under 40's/unvaccinated? And how many are being classified as Covid-related admissions whereas in fact they are there primarily because of other significant causes?
And how many deaths are being reported as due to Covid when in fact the main cause was an underlying condition?
RE: UK Covid death toll - Birdman1811 - 09-08-2021
(09-08-2021, 07:41 AM)Johnny akes Wrote: Would be interesting to see the hospitalizations broken down into age ranges - is there a majority now of under 40's/unvaccinated? And how many are being classified as Covid-related admissions whereas in fact they are there primarily because of other significant causes?
And how many deaths are being reported as due to Covid when in fact the main cause was an underlying condition?
This is a red herring. There's a reason it's deaths with covid, especially since it makes any long term condition worse, like flu does. Flu deaths are treated the same in flu season.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 09-24-2021
(09-02-2021, 08:53 AM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 5th November)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 6th January)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1,032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
2nd June - 801 (1.08 x pw)
9th June - 876 (1.09 x pw)
16th June - 1,057 (1.21 x pw)
23rd June - 1,255 (1.19 x pw)
30th June - 1,500 (1.2 x pw)
7th July - 2,144 (1.43 x pw)
14th July - 3,110 (1.45 x pw)
21st July - 4,063 (1.31 x pw)
28th July - 5182 (1.28 x pw)
4th Aug - 4,944 (0.95 x pw)
11th Aug - 5,073 (1.03 x pw)
18th Aug - 5,514 (1.09 x pw)
25th Aug - 5,922 (1.07 x pw)
1st Sept - 6,236 (1.05 x pw)
8th Sept - 6,302 (1.01 x pw)
15th Sept - 6,306 (1.00 x pw)
22nd Sept - 5,406 (0.86 x pw)
Some good news at last - the 1st week with a fall in hospitalisations since the start of August (1 week) and back to May for a sustained week on week falling numbers situation. The added good news is that this is at a point where, with schools going back, you would expect an increase. Obviously this is one week, and one swallow and all that, but it is good news as the fall is 14% which is sizeable (the best drop was 27% back in March).
Vaccinations march on slowly but it's a whisker short of 90% of the population (16 and over) which is more good news.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 09-29-2021
(09-02-2021, 08:53 AM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 5th November)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 6th January)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1,032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
2nd June - 801 (1.08 x pw)
9th June - 876 (1.09 x pw)
16th June - 1,057 (1.21 x pw)
23rd June - 1,255 (1.19 x pw)
30th June - 1,500 (1.2 x pw)
7th July - 2,144 (1.43 x pw)
14th July - 3,110 (1.45 x pw)
21st July - 4,063 (1.31 x pw)
28th July - 5182 (1.28 x pw)
4th Aug - 4,944 (0.95 x pw)
11th Aug - 5,073 (1.03 x pw)
18th Aug - 5,514 (1.09 x pw)
25th Aug - 5,922 (1.07 x pw)
1st Sept - 6,236 (1.05 x pw)
8th Sept - 6,302 (1.01 x pw)
15th Sept - 6,306 (1.00 x pw)
22nd Sept - 5,406 (0.86 x pw)
29th Sept - 5017 (0.93 x pw)
And further good news - a 2nd week of falling numbers in hospital gets us very close to falling below 5k in hospital in England. It also shows that it wasn't a one off week and shows an improving trend (4 weeks with either a fall of max 1% growth). Considering the time of year with kids going back to school it is positive.
Vaccinations continue at a crawling pace but by next week we should see over 90% of 16 and overs in the UK having had at least one jab with over 82% having had both. We should start to see boosters being delivered soon which is another brick in the wall.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Derek Hardballs - 10-09-2021
What has happened to this country where we have just accepted this as ok…
Dr Rachel Clarke
Our current Covid hospitalisation rates are 3x those in France, 6x Italy & 15x Spain.
We have nearly 7000 gravely unwell Covid patients in hospital.
Do these people not matter?
Nor the thousands with long Covid?
Nor the children off school because case are sky high?
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