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RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-11-2021
Agree with all of that keef and that's why I'm hoping that this is the peak because we've done a good job of the vaccination program and that's provided that protection we needed. I do think we'll see a rise over the next few weeks with us all getting back into pubs, clubs and stadiums but I think it will be short lived (fingers crossed).
RE: UK Covid death toll - keef - 08-11-2021
(08-11-2021, 08:12 PM)baggy1 Wrote: Agree with all of that keef and that's why I'm hoping that this is the peak because we've done a good job of the vaccination program and that's provided that protection we needed. I do think we'll see a rise over the next few weeks with us all getting back into pubs, clubs and stadiums but I think it will be short lived (fingers crossed).
the one thing the human race is good at is surviving . sadly many lives have been lost and when we locked down we saved lives i agree, but those lives that we saved we would lose again when we opened up. its just a natural way that this virus works it will always get the better of the vulnerable in our society
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-18-2021
(08-11-2021, 03:22 PM)baggy1 Wrote:(07-21-2021, 03:14 PM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 5th November)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 6th January)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1,032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
2nd June - 801 (1.08 x pw)
9th June - 876 (1.09 x pw)
16th June - 1,057 (1.21 x pw)
23rd June - 1,255 (1.19 x pw)
30th June - 1,500 (1.2 x pw)
7th July - 2,144 (1.43 x pw)
14th July - 3,110 (1.45 x pw)
21st July - 4,063 (1.31 x pw)
28th July - 5182 (1.28 x pw)
4th Aug - 4,944 (0.95 x pw)
11th Aug - 5,073 (1.03 x pw)
18th Aug - 5,514 (1.09 x pw)
A week of little progress either way on the hospital numbers with them staying roughly the same for two weeks now. Good news that it isn't increasing but we have to realise that we are a long way of having this under control. Compared to this period 12 months ago we had less than 1,000 in hospital and we now have over 5 times that. We've had similar % plateauing figures in the past with 1 going on to go up again (Nov/Dec) and one going on to go down (Jan), the next few weeks will give us an indication of where we are going.
We're on 89.1% of the adult population having had one jab and 3/4s having had both, unfortunately 10.9% of the adult population is 5.7M people that haven't had the jabs which is still a large number and we need to keep using onwards with the vaccination to get that as low as possible.
Some interesting debates going on at the moment, Should we have a booster jab or should we give the doses to countries that haven't had as much vaccination availability; and giving jabs to kids and how young should they go. I think while we still have a sizeable hospitalised population we should carry on with the booster programme, we are leading the way in vaccines with our early start, we don't want to find out that actually we needed the boosters after all and have to play catch up after all the hard work. And for me, as long as the data available shows that jabbing kids has proven safe, it has been rolled out in different countries with no issues, then I'm all for it.
With it levelling out last week I was hoping for a downturn this week but unfortunately numbers have increased in hospitals in England again by 9%. Obviously with restrictions now being none existent I suppose it is logical that with the virus will spread more easily, however I have a nagging feeling that the congregating in football stadiums is a driver in all of these increases unfortunately. The initial rises occurred during the Euros followed by a lull a couple of weeks after it finished and now a rise again.
Vaccinations are still rolling out with nearly 300k getting their 1st jab this last week which is good to see that there are still many coming forward and edging us ever closer to 90%, but there are still 5.5M adults who haven't had the vaccine which I can't help but feel is contributing to the continued rises in hospitalisations (either directly or indirectly). With 16 and 17 year olds being vaccinated now though I think they will balance it out a bit hopefully.
The 9% rise isn't too worrying at this point but we need to keep vigilant and do what we can (mask wearing is virtually non-existent in some places around where I live now), especially as we are heading into the colder periods where viruses will spread and potentially cause more hospitalisations.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-26-2021
(07-21-2021, 03:14 PM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 5th November)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 6th January)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1,032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
2nd June - 801 (1.08 x pw)
9th June - 876 (1.09 x pw)
16th June - 1,057 (1.21 x pw)
23rd June - 1,255 (1.19 x pw)
30th June - 1,500 (1.2 x pw)
7th July - 2,144 (1.43 x pw)
14th July - 3,110 (1.45 x pw)
21st July - 4,063 (1.31 x pw)
28th July - 5182 (1.28 x pw)
4th Aug - 4,944 (0.95 x pw)
11th Aug - 5,073 (1.03 x pw)
18th Aug - 5,514 (1.09 x pw)
25th Aug - 5,922 (1.07 x pw)
Another week and another rise in the numbers in hospital albeit a small one (7% - about 400). The point that does concern me is that this should be the period where we are seeing low numbers based on schools being off and we are able to get ventilation into buildings and get out and about more, rather than being cooped up. This time last year we had 500 in hospital and now we have nearly 6k, which we can cope with but once schools go back and we start to close the windows and head back indoors then, in theory the spread will increase and we are not at a low enough base to manage a sharp increase. Last year we started to see a rise in numbers from mid-september which is three or four weeks away so buckle up because there is very little we can do now.
I am pleased to see that they have extended the vaccinations out to the 16 and 17 year olds now but it has thrown the comparable data out a bit. We are just short of 88% of the population that have had at least 1 jab which is great but we need to get that number as high as possible. There are over 6.5M people 16 or over that have not had the 1st jab, we only need 0.5% of those to need hospital care and we will have over 30k in hospital - it is so important that people step forward to get the jab if they haven't. If people don't want it for genuine reasons then so be it, but those that have the approach that 'it doesn't matter', or ' it won't affect me' need to think again.
The facts are simple - we have 1.5k more people in hospital than we did a month ago and 4.5k than 2 months ago and numbers are rising week on week. We can bury our head in the sand until we actually take the hit, or we can put some minor restrictions in place now, mask wearing mandated in all public spaces, testing or vaccination to get into events or venues as a start.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Derek Hardballs - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 08:10 AM)baggy1 Wrote:(07-21-2021, 03:14 PM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 5th November)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw) (Lockdown 6th January)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1,032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
2nd June - 801 (1.08 x pw)
9th June - 876 (1.09 x pw)
16th June - 1,057 (1.21 x pw)
23rd June - 1,255 (1.19 x pw)
30th June - 1,500 (1.2 x pw)
7th July - 2,144 (1.43 x pw)
14th July - 3,110 (1.45 x pw)
21st July - 4,063 (1.31 x pw)
28th July - 5182 (1.28 x pw)
4th Aug - 4,944 (0.95 x pw)
11th Aug - 5,073 (1.03 x pw)
18th Aug - 5,514 (1.09 x pw)
25th Aug - 5,922 (1.07 x pw)
Another week and another rise in the numbers in hospital albeit a small one (7% - about 400). The point that does concern me is that this should be the period where we are seeing low numbers based on schools being off and we are able to get ventilation into buildings and get out and about more, rather than being cooped up. This time last year we had 500 in hospital and now we have nearly 6k, which we can cope with but once schools go back and we start to close the windows and head back indoors then, in theory the spread will increase and we are not at a low enough base to manage a sharp increase. Last year we started to see a rise in numbers from mid-september which is three or four weeks away so buckle up because there is very little we can do now.
I am pleased to see that they have extended the vaccinations out to the 16 and 17 year olds now but it has thrown the comparable data out a bit. We are just short of 88% of the population that have had at least 1 jab which is great but we need to get that number as high as possible. There are over 6.5M people 16 or over that have not had the 1st jab, we only need 0.5% of those to need hospital care and we will have over 30k in hospital - it is so important that people step forward to get the jab if they haven't. If people don't want it for genuine reasons then so be it, but those that have the approach that 'it doesn't matter', or ' it won't affect me' need to think again.
The facts are simple - we have 1.5k more people in hospital than we did a month ago and 4.5k than 2 months ago and numbers are rising week on week. We can bury our head in the sand until we actually take the hit, or we can put some minor restrictions in place now, mask wearing mandated in all public spaces, testing or vaccination to get into events or venues as a start.
You do realise man babies will be wailing at the thought of these sensible measures. Sadly that includes a number of MPs!
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-26-2021
I know Dekka and of all the measures that get me is the mask wearing one, this is such a minor imposition on individuals rights that I simply don't get the noise on it. It might only be minor in impact but any help at this point would improve the stats.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Ossian - 08-26-2021
I'm still wearing one around shops; it's as much for the reassurance of others as it is for protection but, as Baggy1 says, it's a trivial imposition. We were at Upton Warren yesterday and there were requests for masks to be worn when sharing the hides or if the windows were closed; no real inconvenience and generally well observed.
I have to say that in Scotland (we've been back less than two weeks) mask wearing in shops was still up around 90%, even without prompting.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggiebuckster - 08-26-2021
It is obvious that the majority are done with mask wearing based on my experiences attending 3 Albion league matches over the last week. The number of people on the concourses at our place and especially at Blackburn without masks was around 90% I would estimate.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 10:14 AM)baggiebuckster Wrote: It is obvious that the majority are done with mask wearing based on my experiences attending 3 Albion league matches over the last week. The number of people on the concourses at our place and especially at Blackburn without masks was around 90% I would estimate.
I'd go higher than that bb, I carried mine in without putting on and went through the concourse straight up to my seat. I must have seen 3 or 4 being worn and it was pretty packed. It's putting me off to be honest, I chose not to go to the Luton game mainly because of traffic but I didn't need much convincing and went to the Sheff Utd game but didn't go last night (even though I had a ticket). We've got a few weeks before Millwall which gives time to see how things are going.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Derek Hardballs - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 10:51 AM)baggy1 Wrote:(08-26-2021, 10:14 AM)baggiebuckster Wrote: It is obvious that the majority are done with mask wearing based on my experiences attending 3 Albion league matches over the last week. The number of people on the concourses at our place and especially at Blackburn without masks was around 90% I would estimate.
I'd go higher than that bb, I carried mine in without putting on and went through the concourse straight up to my seat. I must have seen 3 or 4 being worn and it was pretty packed. It's putting me off to be honest, I chose not to go to the Luton game mainly because of traffic but I didn't need much convincing and went to the Sheff Utd game but didn't go last night (even though I had a ticket). We've got a few weeks before Millwall which gives time to see how things are going.
I wore mine and a fair few did around us but as you say it’s putting me off attending. This is after 30yrs with a season ticket. Oh and before cockwombles go all hard man Saj on me about hiding from Covid I will say I have very valid reasons to be cautious about this needless fwedumb nonsense.