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RE: UK Covid death toll - Tom Joad - 06-30-2021
Derek Hardballs Wrote:I was listening to a leading Doctor on LBC this morning who said people seem to not realise around and I cannot remember the actual figure but between 20-30% of those in hospital with Covid are children.
That's quite worrying, Dek, although I heard a Dr on radio 4 this week emphasising that in general, kids are not affected too badly by Covid.
RE: UK Covid death toll - JOK - 06-30-2021
(06-30-2021, 06:10 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I was listening to a leading Doctor on LBC this morning who said people seem to not realise around and I cannot remember the actual figure but between 20-30% of those in hospital with Covid are children.
Not sure what figures he was referring to. The only stats I can find do not seem to support that statement.
Royal Aberdeen Children’s Hospital, said: "As it stands there are very few children in hospital in Scotland and across the whole of the UK due to Covid.”
"We're not seeing any evidence of an increase in paediatric admissions with Covid. A very small number of admissions who test positive for Covid is what we'd expect.
"Our experience over the last 15 months is that many children who test positive have come into hospital for something else, like broken bones. At the moment the situation in the UK is stable. The number of children in hospital with Covid remains very low.”
https://www.scotsman.com/health/covid-in-children-no-evidence-of-increase-in-hospital-numbers-say-paediatricians-3259535
There does seem some concern that younger patients who have been admitted to hospital are more likely to suffer Long Covid or this mystery illness which causes various symptoms.
“While the majority of children and young people are not severely affected by Covid, ONS data has shown that 7.4% of children aged 2-11 and 8.2% of those aged 12-16 report continued symptoms.”
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/long-covid-clinic-children-open-20815867
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/long-covid-clinic-children-open-20815867
Only detailed stats with age bands relating to hospital admissions in the Leicester area since week ending 18th June per 100,000 people there have been:
0 - 19 yrs. = 0.0 cases
20- 59 yrs . = 9.0 cases
60 - 79 yrs. = 14.8 cases
80 plus. = 17.0 cases
All that equates to just 27 cases in total with no children.
Data.leicester.gov.uk
Perhaps it was a MISleading doctor you were listening to, or you misheard.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Birdman1811 - 06-30-2021
(06-30-2021, 06:10 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I was listening to a leading Doctor on LBC this morning who said people seem to not realise around and I cannot remember the actual figure but between 20-30% of those in hospital with Covid are children.
No data supports that as far as I'm aware.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Madness - 06-30-2021
(06-30-2021, 06:10 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I was listening to a leading Doctor on LBC this morning who said people seem to not realise around and I cannot remember the actual figure but between 20-30% of those in hospital with Covid are children.
That is utter bullshit
RE: UK Covid death toll - Madness - 06-30-2021
(06-28-2021, 09:22 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: So in ten days three years groups at a school I know have closed, one year has 28 cases that they know of. It seems schools are the Petri dish for further possible variants.
Awful phrase to use
RE: UK Covid death toll - Protheroe - 07-01-2021
(06-30-2021, 09:31 PM)Madness Wrote:(06-30-2021, 06:10 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I was listening to a leading Doctor on LBC this morning who said people seem to not realise around and I cannot remember the actual figure but between 20-30% of those in hospital with Covid are children.
That is utter bullshit
Absolute bullshit Dekka
RE: UK Covid death toll - Ted Maul - 07-01-2021
(07-01-2021, 10:36 AM)Protheroe Wrote:(06-30-2021, 09:31 PM)Madness Wrote:(06-30-2021, 06:10 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I was listening to a leading Doctor on LBC this morning who said people seem to not realise around and I cannot remember the actual figure but between 20-30% of those in hospital with Covid are children.
That is utter bullshit
Absolute bullshit Dekka
Yep. Confirmed bollocks.
Cannot understand why, after 18 months of this shit people still want to focus on the doom and gloom. I was in support of lockdown and the four week extension but fuck me.
RE: UK Covid death toll - Derek Hardballs - 07-01-2021
(07-01-2021, 10:36 AM)Protheroe Wrote:(06-30-2021, 09:31 PM)Madness Wrote:(06-30-2021, 06:10 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I was listening to a leading Doctor on LBC this morning who said people seem to not realise around and I cannot remember the actual figure but between 20-30% of those in hospital with Covid are children.
That is utter bullshit
Absolute bullshit Dekka
If it's wrong then it's wrong. It's only what I heard and I'd be / will be very, very happy for it to be incorrect.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 07-01-2021
Unfortunately the NHS doesn't put out the figures directly and seem to report them as a number per 100,000 rather than saying the simple things (of the 1500 in hospital, what age brackets do they fall into)
There will be a report out next week that will give more up to date data but as of the 1st week of June there were 700 admissions in that week of which 49 were under 18, so that equates to 7%. Unfortunately that doesn't separate out how many stayed in hospital and even if they were admitted for covid (or just had it but went in for a broken arm). The reporting on these items is really poor and would put to bed a lot of the misunderstandings or social media crap that is out there.
A bit more information and again slightly out of date - on 22nd June the NHS is reporting 959 adult beds occupied with covid patients, it is also reporting that there were 1,301 in hospital with covid. All things being equal that means that of the 1,301 in hospital 342 in children's beds which equates to 26% which would support Dekka's statement.
Unfortunately it isn't clear how the numbers actually relate and as said above making simple calculations as I have done probably don't take into account many intricacies of the data itself. However it does show that some on here are very quick to jump and shout when someone says something that doesn't suit their view and can't be bothered to look into that stat.
I'm not saying the stat is correct but it could be and as said we need much more clarity on the data to know for sure.
RE: UK Covid death toll - baggiebuckster - 07-01-2021
We have gone through this conversation last year when we debated if the people in hospital with Covid figures relate to people actually being treated for Covid or include everyone who had a positive test irrespective of symptoms etc.
There is the potential for quite a big difference in the numbers if they are including everyone as a Covid case.