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UK Covid death toll - Printable Version +- WBAUnofficial (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk) +-- Forum: WBAUnofficial (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Politics (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=5) +--- Thread: UK Covid death toll (/showthread.php?tid=10162) Pages:
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RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-01-2020 Unfortunately because we have such a poor testing system in place we really are guessing what the rate is. It appears to increase because we are only testing heavily in areas that we know the is infection, until we get good testing in every area we will never know. The only definite numbers we have are hospital admissions, deaths and excess deaths - all of those are stable or declining. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe there is still a great concern over how much we have moved to a socially free society, I see the groups of kids obviously from different households all mingling together and pubs full of customers all sitting together without distancing. I’m not talking about the ones on TV, I’m talking about my local shops and pub. We still need to treat this with a great deal of caution. RE: UK Covid death toll - Brentbaggie - 08-01-2020 Fair do’s. But the moment Boris said “We have to trust the common sense of the British people” I thought, “We’re fu*#ed.” RE: UK Covid death toll - Baggybenny - 08-02-2020 (08-01-2020, 08:04 PM)Brentbaggie Wrote: Fair do’s. But the moment Boris said “We have to trust the common sense of the British people” I thought, “We’re fu*#ed.” In fact, the majority of whom voted for him. RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-04-2020 And again the figures out for deaths as at the week ended 24th July show no increase in excess deaths i.e. we are running about normal for this time of year. 161 less deaths against the 5 years average being the 6th week in a row that we have had less deaths than the 5 Year average in England and Wales (221 less against 2019). Added to that there is no increase in hospital admissions, patients in hospital or patients on ventilators and the signs are that either something has changed in the way this virus is spreading or who it infects, or the social distancing measures in place are working, or a combination of both. The news keeps focussing on number of cases rising which can be scary but it would be more accurate to say 'the number of cases identified' because you can only say they are rising in the population if you know what the comparative figures were / are, and we had no view on the number of cases in March, April, May or June - they could well have been the same if we had the same way of measuring (testing). Again, some good figures showing that things have levelled out despite mass gatherings, relaxation of rules, and general apathy in some of the public. And again long may it continue. RE: UK Covid death toll - JOK - 08-04-2020 (08-04-2020, 10:17 AM)baggy1 Wrote: And again the figures out for deaths as at the week ended 24th July show no increase in excess deaths i.e. we are running about normal for this time of year. 161 less deaths against the 5 years average being the 6th week in a row that we have had less deaths than the 5 Year average in England and Wales (221 less against 2019).Could it be something to do with the majority attending mass gatherings and possibly contracting the virus are younger fitter types who don't need to go to hospital and are less likely to die? As you, I think, are saying would the quantity of tests now being performed be showing how unreliable to stats were in April and May? Thanks for simplifying these stats regularly, by the way. RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-04-2020 I agree about the people contracting the virus will be the younger fitter types. An example from my own household this weekend - my daughter went out on Friday night with her mates to the pub and on Saturday one of them felt ill got tested and was positive (she'd got back from Spain 10 days previously but hadn't been isolating). She found out Sunday morning and let them all know what had happened. Unfortunately my daughter had joined us for a family drink at a pub garden on Saturday afternoon and one of those there was my mother in law who we are protecting as best we can as she has COPD. We're monitoring any developments. The point is that I'm pretty certain the virus is moving around the younger generation freely but has less impact on them generally than, for instance, the flu. They occasionally get some symptoms that make them ill but very few by the looks of it. It's when it gets into the older population that it is causing any damage. An interesting stat that came out this week, and sorry I can't remember the detail, but there are a very high number of those that have died with this that have had Alzheimers, now that could be to do with the age that they are as much as the condition but it shows there is so much to learn about this. RE: UK Covid death toll - fuzzbox - 08-05-2020 (08-04-2020, 11:12 AM)baggy1 Wrote: I agree about the people contracting the virus will be the younger fitter types. An example from my own household this weekend - my daughter went out on Friday night with her mates to the pub and on Saturday one of them felt ill got tested and was positive (she'd got back from Spain 10 days previously but hadn't been isolating). She found out Sunday morning and let them all know what had happened. Unfortunately my daughter had joined us for a family drink at a pub garden on Saturday afternoon and one of those there was my mother in law who we are protecting as best we can as she has COPD. We're monitoring any developments. Purely for your own piece of mind, the prevailing thinking is that it doesn't spread as quickly as that, so your mother in law should be safe. At least, if anything happens, your daughter doesn't have to shoulder the blame. RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-05-2020 Thanks Fuzzy, appreciate it. My daughter was in bits on Sunday morning when she called and I told her pretty much the same. It was the first time we'd taken my M-I-L out (apart from a couple of trips to the supermarket) since this whole thing started and she didn't want to miss out on my nephews 30th. I'm pretty certain she's ok because with her condition if she was going get it there wouldn't be much time before we knew. RE: UK Covid death toll - Baggie_Nick - 08-05-2020 (08-05-2020, 12:46 PM)baggy1 Wrote: Thanks Fuzzy, appreciate it. My daughter was in bits on Sunday morning when she called and I told her pretty much the same. It was the first time we'd taken my M-I-L out (apart from a couple of trips to the supermarket) since this whole thing started and she didn't want to miss out on my nephews 30th. I'm pretty certain she's ok because with her condition if she was going get it there wouldn't be much time before we knew. Why did the girl not self-isolate after the Spanish visit? Did your daughter social distance during the night out? No criticism and I sincerely hope you are all well! RE: UK Covid death toll - baggy1 - 08-05-2020 (08-05-2020, 05:22 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:(08-05-2020, 12:46 PM)baggy1 Wrote: Thanks Fuzzy, appreciate it. My daughter was in bits on Sunday morning when she called and I told her pretty much the same. It was the first time we'd taken my M-I-L out (apart from a couple of trips to the supermarket) since this whole thing started and she didn't want to miss out on my nephews 30th. I'm pretty certain she's ok because with her condition if she was going get it there wouldn't be much time before we knew. She got back before the instruction to self isolate apparently. Trust me Nick, I know how frustrating it is but the kids really don’t see it as an issue, we’ll that’s probably unfair, they do see it as an issue but they don’t think it will impact them. And no, social distancing isn’t something that they even consider after a few glasses of wine. I sound like my dad!!
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