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RE: Takeover - Kit Kat Chunky - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 03:58 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-16-2024, 03:50 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:(01-16-2024, 02:54 PM)Psalm23 Wrote: This piece by Steve Madeley is well worth a read.
Our predicament
Bit confused at the level of MSD dept ? Is it £27m or £27m + an additional loan taken out in December.
£20m plus the additional loan.
We will get to discover the value of the additional loan, when the accounts to 30th June 2023 are published on companies house website (around start of April).
And whether interest is being serviced, or rolling. My guess is the latter.
RE: Takeover - Tom Joad - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 03:58 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-16-2024, 03:50 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:(01-16-2024, 02:54 PM)Psalm23 Wrote: This piece by Steve Madeley is well worth a read.
Our predicament
Bit confused at the level of MSD dept ? Is it £27m or £27m + an additional loan taken out in December.
£20m plus the additional loan.
We will get to discover the value of the additional loan, when the accounts to 30th June 2023 are published on companies house website (around start of April).
Great article, nothing new but a decent summary of our position and how it came to be.
RE: Takeover - Bartley_baggie - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 04:00 PM)WorcsWBA Wrote:I’ve got an ocean that’s not the reason(01-16-2024, 03:36 PM)wba13 Wrote: Some are saying the takeover hold up is at the Chinese end, are they delaying things for a pacific reason. But there also saying there won’t be any problems with the takeover. So why delay. ?
More likely to be an Atlantic reason if the preferred bidder is going to be Shilen Patel et al!
RE: Takeover - Hudds1 - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 05:31 PM)Tom Joad Wrote:(01-16-2024, 03:58 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-16-2024, 03:50 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:(01-16-2024, 02:54 PM)Psalm23 Wrote: This piece by Steve Madeley is well worth a read.
Our predicament
Bit confused at the level of MSD dept ? Is it £27m or £27m + an additional loan taken out in December.
£20m plus the additional loan.
We will get to discover the value of the additional loan, when the accounts to 30th June 2023 are published on companies house website (around start of April).
Great article, nothing new but a decent summary of our position and how it came to be.
And sometimes nothing ls a real cool hand.
RE: Takeover - Albionmad - 01-16-2024
Don't want to be a party proper.
But...
Talkshite interviewed a Reading supporter today about the pitch invasion which resulted in the game last weekend being abandoned.
One point which stood out for me was the fact that the current owner Dai Yonnge had lined up several prospective buyers but each time attempted to renegotiate the terms at the eleventh hour.
Is this standard Chinese business strategy?
If so we may be waiting for a while for new owners.
RE: Takeover - Fulham Fallout - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 05:54 PM)Albionmad Wrote: Don't want to be a party proper.
But...
Talkshite interviewed a Reading supporter today about the pitch invasion which resulted in the game last weekend being abandoned.
One point which stood out for me was the fact that the current owner Dai Yonnge had lined up several prospective buyers but each time attempted to renegotiate the terms at the eleventh hour.
Is this standard Chinese business strategy?
If so we may be waiting for a while for new owners.
You could also say the same about central Asians, trying to get the price down at the 11th hour.
What could possible go wrong with our takeover?
RE: Takeover - Mr Nimbus - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 05:54 PM)Albionmad Wrote: Don't want to be a party proper.
But...
Talkshite interviewed a Reading supporter today about the pitch invasion which resulted in the game last weekend being abandoned.
One point which stood out for me was the fact that the current owner Dai Yonnge had lined up several prospective buyers but each time attempted to renegotiate the terms at the eleventh hour.
Is this standard Chinese business strategy?
If so we may be waiting for a while for new owners.
I may be talking utter arse but I think the involvement of MSD may be in our favour? Could they not apply some pressure to the current owner? Any of you finance peeps want to pitch in?
RE: Takeover - CarlosCorbewrong - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 05:54 PM)Albionmad Wrote: Don't want to be a party proper.
But...
Talkshite interviewed a Reading supporter today about the pitch invasion which resulted in the game last weekend being abandoned.
One point which stood out for me was the fact that the current owner Dai Yonnge had lined up several prospective buyers but each time attempted to renegotiate the terms at the eleventh hour.
Is this standard Chinese business strategy?
If so we may be waiting for a while for new owners.
I'd always assumed he was a Welshman.
RE: Takeover - Pragmatist - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 03:58 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-16-2024, 03:50 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:(01-16-2024, 02:54 PM)Psalm23 Wrote: This piece by Steve Madeley is well worth a read.
Our predicament
Bit confused at the level of MSD dept ? Is it £27m or £27m + an additional loan taken out in December.
£20m plus the additional loan.
We will get to discover the value of the additional loan, when the accounts to 30th June 2023 are published on companies house website (around start of April).
The unconfirmed rumour is an extra £8m, so £28m plus any interest (we may well have had to pay quarterly rather than letting it roll up).
(01-16-2024, 05:54 PM)Albionmad Wrote: Don't want to be a party proper.
But...
Talkshite interviewed a Reading supporter today about the pitch invasion which resulted in the game last weekend being abandoned.
One point which stood out for me was the fact that the current owner Dai Yonnge had lined up several prospective buyers but each time attempted to renegotiate the terms at the eleventh hour.
Is this standard Chinese business strategy?
If so we may be waiting for a while for new owners.
There is speculation amongst Reading fans that Yongge WANTS administration as he wants to develop the side.
(01-16-2024, 05:58 PM)Mr Nimbus Wrote:(01-16-2024, 05:54 PM)Albionmad Wrote: Don't want to be a party proper.
But...
Talkshite interviewed a Reading supporter today about the pitch invasion which resulted in the game last weekend being abandoned.
One point which stood out for me was the fact that the current owner Dai Yonnge had lined up several prospective buyers but each time attempted to renegotiate the terms at the eleventh hour.
Is this standard Chinese business strategy?
If so we may be waiting for a while for new owners.
I may be talking utter arse but I think the involvement of MSD may be in our favour? Could they not apply some pressure to the current owner? Any of you finance peeps want to pitch in?
They could only do anything formally if the loan is in default. However, no change of control can take place without MSD’s consent, which means they could block any potential buyer who doesn’t commit to immediately repaying the MSD loans. They simply don’t give consent if that commitment isn’t given to their satisfaction.
RE: Takeover - Albaggie - 01-16-2024
(01-16-2024, 03:58 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote:(01-16-2024, 03:50 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:(01-16-2024, 02:54 PM)Psalm23 Wrote: This piece by Steve Madeley is well worth a read.
Our predicament
Bit confused at the level of MSD dept ? Is it £27m or £27m + an additional loan taken out in December.
£20m plus the additional loan.
We will get to discover the value of the additional loan, when the accounts to 30th June 2023 are published on companies house website (around start of April).
I’m probably being thick but why would a loan taken out in December 2023 appear in the accounts to June 2023?