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Reading the thread about Wigan tickets is the groundhog day on our ground and its 26,000 or so capacity.
This morning, yippee, I was probably the first caller at the ticket office at 9am on the dot, and I was told there were only a handful of seats together left- I've got two seats at the front of the East stand and will pray it is dry.
I can guarantee you many fans will have called today and there will be no room at the inn or a really crap choice, like some have said before: "Get two separate tickets so you can't sit besides the person you've gone to the game with!" Hardly ideal is it?  
Two schools of thought exist. We can't sell out anyway so why bother, or build it and they will come, and my own experience already proves the holes in the former argument.
I'm firmly of the latter, with a forward thinking marketing strategy, because when we have 2 days before a game for Wigan and occasional fans cannot attend, those who rang after about 9-15, there will be many disappointed like I was trying to get to the Luton game.
I never get the snobbery some season ticket holders have for those who don't go all the time. I have always gone occasionally, some more than others, but still been a fan since 75 and have seen first hand the good, bad and ugly ranging from Valencia to Woking. However, we all have different priorities in life so respect that. Why should the Hawthorns be some clique for 20,000 or so, like a back street pub in Netherton, when there are, I have heard, a database of 35,000 plus who are occasional fans.
I wouldn't go to watch a film, a show etc, where I'm not able to sit with family or friends unless it is some kind of spectacular. i feel the same about football.
We are not playing Barcelona, Liverpool or Juventus on Saturday- it's Wigan FFS in a year when we are doing well.
We are an anomaly with our rigid capacity and why some think we are limited to about 21-23,000 die-hards is incredibly short-sighted.
There are at least 55,000 attending Albion fans of some kind - having a capacity that suits making more fans attend regularly makes sense. That would be about 32,000 by my estimates. 
Of course, I know it won't happen under the current stewardship, but the point is to challenge attitude of the die hards on this board with views set in stone that we are a small club without hope of getting any bigger. All the evidence at Albion and with other clubs proves otherwise.
Can we keep all the ground shit on one thread?
Sorry Spandau, I still don't get your argument, as has always been said, we never sell out what we have got, so to accuse those that see little point in building a larger ground just to have empty seats on the chance someone would want them, is a bit much. Because you cannot get good seats together two days before the game, despite them being on sale for nigh on a month, also is no reason to expand.
My Wife has started to come to a few matches with us, Wigan being one of them, so to get a seat near us, I simply buy it on the very morning they go on sale, a larger ground would be no guarantee she would be able to sit by us as all the seats like now could be taken up by season ticket holders, as for your analogy of the cinema or theatre, I don't think either would consider building a larger venue, because there is a particular blockbuster or show coming out, it would be a case of the old adage, tickets are going fast, get them well you can.
Just use the website, there's loads of seats together in Block A3 of the Smethwick.... and in block A6

So I really don't see the problem.

Rest of the ground is practically sold out, so again whose fault is it that there are no more seats together? All the ungrateful tits who bought them earlier?!

I wanted to go to see Frank Skinner last year, all the tickets had sold out when I came to buy mine, strangely I didn't think they needed to expand the venue, just thought bugger.

Oh and G9 front of the East has a block of 3 together still, marked as not suitable for under 11s though, anyone got any idea why?
(02-27-2020, 03:18 PM)MassDebater Wrote: [ -> ]Just use the website, there's loads of seats together in Block A3 of the Smethwick.... and in block A6

So I really don't see the problem.

Rest of the ground is practically sold out, so again whose fault is it that there are no more seats together? All the ungrateful tits who bought them earlier?!

I wanted to go to see Frank Skinner last year, all the tickets had sold out when I came to buy mine, strangely I didn't think they needed to expand the venue, just thought bugger.

Oh and G9 front of the East has a block of 3 together still, marked as not suitable for under 11s though, anyone got any idea why?*

Outrageous!


*The view from those seats is blighted by the expanded ad boards. IOW little uns wouldn't see the pitch.
(02-27-2020, 03:28 PM)baggiebloke Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-27-2020, 03:18 PM)MassDebater Wrote: [ -> ]Just use the website, there's loads of seats together in Block A3 of the Smethwick.... and in block A6

So I really don't see the problem.

Rest of the ground is practically sold out, so again whose fault is it that there are no more seats together? All the ungrateful tits who bought them earlier?!

I wanted to go to see Frank Skinner last year, all the tickets had sold out when I came to buy mine, strangely I didn't think they needed to expand the venue, just thought bugger.

Oh and G9 front of the East has a block of 3 together still, marked as not suitable for under 11s though, anyone got any idea why?*

Outrageous!


*The view from those seats is blighted by the expanded ad boards. IOW little uns wouldn't see the pitch.

Fuggin' Marc Darcy eh!? Smile Oh well still loads in the Smethwick...
(02-27-2020, 02:56 PM)cornishbaggie Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry Spandau, I still don't get your argument, as has always been said, we never sell out what we have got, so to accuse those that see little point in building a larger ground just to have empty seats on the chance someone would want them, is a bit much. Because you cannot get good seats together two days before the game, despite them being on sale for nigh on a month, also is no reason to expand.
My Wife has started to come to a few matches with us, Wigan being one of them, so to get a seat near us, I simply buy it on the very morning they go on sale, a larger ground would be no guarantee she would be able to sit by us as all the seats like now could be taken up by season ticket holders, as for your analogy of the cinema or theatre, I don't think either would consider building a larger venue, because there is a particular blockbuster or show coming out, it would be a case of the old adage, tickets are going fast, get them well you can.

Fair do Cornish, you always put your arguments across well. You are also one of the most loyal fans our club has so sure you're argument is tempered with knowing the effort you make.
However, I do know of several people who I have enticed to the Albion in recent years from over Solihull way who have expressed more of an interest in attending regular, but cited lack of availability on short notice.
The current set up does mean we have less fair weather fans and I really do mean that as an apt phrase. My dad, when I was a kid, if the waether was good on a Saturday suddenly say shall we go to the Albion. His fair weather attitude made me a fan and now my kids go along occasionally too.
Current capacity stops harvesting new fans, but if you want a 25,000 rocking ground in good times then great. I'd accept a 32,000 ground knowing in fallow times there will be empty seats galore to view on Quest.
However, with accessibility and choice lacking at the Hawthorns the fan base is only going one way IMHO, whilst the floating fans of people new to the W Mids can head elsewhere among our rivals.
So, what proportion of the ground should be kept empty to allow fairweathers to rock up a few hours or a couple of days before kick off?

It's currently about 1/5 of the capacity, which sounds decent to me.
(02-27-2020, 04:02 PM)MassDebater Wrote: [ -> ]So, what proportion of the ground should be kept empty to allow fairweathers to rock up a few hours or a couple of days before kick off?

It's currently about 1/5 of the capacity, which sounds decent to me.

Don't know. Let's look at the likes of Derby, Leicester, Southampton, Forest, Bristol City etc, etc, who have leapfrogged us in capacity and attendances over the years and see how they evaluated it and means now we have a 'mid table championship' capacity.
Think big or think small. It's as simple as that.
(02-27-2020, 04:02 PM)MassDebater Wrote: [ -> ]So, what proportion of the ground should be kept empty to allow fairweathers to rock up a few hours or a couple of days before kick off?

It's currently about 1/5 of the capacity, which sounds decent to me.

Small time attitude which sadly sums up the hierarchy too.
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