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(10-01-2020, 03:59 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:54 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 10:15 AM)baggie_ray Wrote: [ -> ]
Fulham Fallout Wrote:Covid immunity

https://www.livescience.com/antibodies-p...-boat.html

Reading through that it is speculated that one of the 3 immunees might have caused the infection on the ship in the first place.

It also couldn't draw conclusions as to why over a dozen people who weren't "immune" didn't catch Covid, so in reality it cannot be claimed as definite that, because the specific 3 people also didn't catch it, that they definitely cannot catch it again.

Ive just worked it out and the probability of ALL 3 people who were immune from not catching it on board is 0.5%.. so 99.95% chance one of them would have caught it.  Hence why they believe you can’t catch it twice.

Contact the WHO, FF has solved Covid

Err no, that’s what the scientists concluded based on the probability of all 3 not contracting it again. 

If you can’t see that, then there’s no helping you.

And then there’s the 34 million people worldwide who have tested positive for Covid and no one has caught it twice.  There was one or two cases and they believe it hadn’t cleared from the first test to the second.  

But don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion.
(10-01-2020, 04:05 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:59 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:54 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 10:15 AM)baggie_ray Wrote: [ -> ]
Fulham Fallout Wrote:Covid immunity

https://www.livescience.com/antibodies-p...-boat.html

Reading through that it is speculated that one of the 3 immunees might have caused the infection on the ship in the first place.

It also couldn't draw conclusions as to why over a dozen people who weren't "immune" didn't catch Covid, so in reality it cannot be claimed as definite that, because the specific 3 people also didn't catch it, that they definitely cannot catch it again.

Ive just worked it out and the probability of ALL 3 people who were immune from not catching it on board is 0.5%.. so 99.95% chance one of them would have caught it.  Hence why they believe you can’t catch it twice.

Contact the WHO, FF has solved Covid

Err no, that’s what the scientists concluded based in the probability of all 3 not contracting it again. 

If you can’t see that, then there’s no helping you.

That's not what the scientists concluded at all. Have you accounted for the 11 others on the boat that also didn't contract it but didn't have antibodies?
(10-01-2020, 04:08 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 04:05 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:59 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:54 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 10:15 AM)baggie_ray Wrote: [ -> ]Reading through that it is speculated that one of the 3 immunees might have caused the infection on the ship in the first place.

It also couldn't draw conclusions as to why over a dozen people who weren't "immune" didn't catch Covid, so in reality it cannot be claimed as definite that, because the specific 3 people also didn't catch it, that they definitely cannot catch it again.

Ive just worked it out and the probability of ALL 3 people who were immune from not catching it on board is 0.5%.. so 99.95% chance one of them would have caught it.  Hence why they believe you can’t catch it twice.

Contact the WHO, FF has solved Covid

Err no, that’s what the scientists concluded based in the probability of all 3 not contracting it again. 

If you can’t see that, then there’s no helping you.

That's not what the scientists concluded at all. Have you accounted for the 11 others on the boat that also didn't contract it but didn't have antibodies?

No one has caught Covid twice.  34 million cases worldwide and still no one has caught it twice.

Is that a large enough sample for you? 

There were one or two suspected cases of catching it twice but they believe it hadn’t left their body by the time they were tested again.  So no one has caught it twice worldwide.
(10-01-2020, 04:15 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 04:08 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 04:05 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:59 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:54 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]Ive just worked it out and the probability of ALL 3 people who were immune from not catching it on board is 0.5%.. so 99.95% chance one of them would have caught it.  Hence why they believe you can’t catch it twice.

Contact the WHO, FF has solved Covid

Err no, that’s what the scientists concluded based in the probability of all 3 not contracting it again. 

If you can’t see that, then there’s no helping you.

That's not what the scientists concluded at all. Have you accounted for the 11 others on the boat that also didn't contract it but didn't have antibodies?

No one has caught Covid twice.  34 million cases worldwide and still no one has caught it twice.

Is that a large enough sample for you? 

There were one or two suspected cases of catching it twice but they believe it hadn’t left their body by the time they were tested again.  So no one has caught it twice worldwide.

You'd think this would be wider knowledge then - glad I came on a football message board to get this info. 

Take a step back and think about this before responding - go back over my posts and you will see that I am not disagreeing with the possibility that this is real, however much like the flu, there may only be a temporary immunity to the virus. No-one knows how long that immunity is for and even if it has a time limit. So you walking around Solihull with your balls out declaring you're immune only shows that you are being impatient.

So - yes the scientists are looking into this and testing the hypothesis, but no-one has concluded that it is the solution. You running around shouting it is is only making you look silly.
(10-01-2020, 04:15 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 04:08 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 04:05 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:59 PM)baggy1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:54 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]Ive just worked it out and the probability of ALL 3 people who were immune from not catching it on board is 0.5%.. so 99.95% chance one of them would have caught it.  Hence why they believe you can’t catch it twice.

Contact the WHO, FF has solved Covid

Err no, that’s what the scientists concluded based in the probability of all 3 not contracting it again. 

If you can’t see that, then there’s no helping you.

That's not what the scientists concluded at all. Have you accounted for the 11 others on the boat that also didn't contract it but didn't have antibodies?

No one has caught Covid twice.  34 million cases worldwide and still no one has caught it twice.

Is that a large enough sample for you? 

There were one or two suspected cases of catching it twice but they believe it hadn’t left their body by the time they were tested again.  So no one has caught it twice worldwide.

There's a couple of problems with this. Firstly, the vast majority of people who contracted COVID19 around March/April time never had a test so it's possible some that have it now have had it before without knowing (as it's possible to be asymptomatic to one strand of a virus and then symptomatic to another, as the virus undoubtedly has mutated since then; although viruses usually get weaker when they mutate not stronger). 

Secondly, antibodies don't generally have an infinite lifespan anyway. It's possible that you can be protected from COVID19 for a few months after contracting it and then the protection fades, so maybe no one has had it twice yet because the timespan hasn't been long enough for this to fade.

Of course the best scenario is what you're saying, but really we have no idea if it's the case.
(10-01-2020, 03:04 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t think this app works like the other was intended. The first app was going to use Bluetooth.  The fact you have to scan it to restaurants indicates to me this app can’t pin point you precisely and not I’m even sure if it uses GPS (which as we know we using google maps can be slightly out.

The app does work on Bluetooth, the scanning is an extra precaution.

(10-01-2020, 03:19 PM)billybassett Wrote: [ -> ]Yep Apple's own devices a few years out of date don't work on technology built by Apple.

If the world want's to know what's gone wrong with the 2000s there it is a nutshell

The latest version of apple software will work on a phone released 5 years ago.

A 10 year old iPhone still works, it just doesn't get the newest updates and features.
(10-01-2020, 04:04 PM)waffle Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 03:54 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-01-2020, 10:15 AM)baggie_ray Wrote: [ -> ]
Fulham Fallout Wrote:Covid immunity

https://www.livescience.com/antibodies-p...-boat.html

Reading through that it is speculated that one of the 3 immunees might have caused the infection on the ship in the first place.

It also couldn't draw conclusions as to why over a dozen people who weren't "immune" didn't catch Covid, so in reality it cannot be claimed as definite that, because the specific 3 people also didn't catch it, that they definitely cannot catch it again.

Ive just worked it out and the probability of ALL 3 people who were immune from not catching it on board is 0.5%.. so 99.95% chance one of them would have caught it.  Hence why they believe you can’t catch it twice.

You may want to recalculate. I’m not sure 100.45% quite works.  

Anyway, how do you know how long the antibodies last?

Ziz told him  Big Grin
Some medical staff in a yank hospital have tested positive multiple times. Re-infection is real.
Simple thing here; just do we're told and take advice from people who know more about viruses and their spread than a gang of blokes  talking mainly bollocks on a football message board.

I know a fair few people who said 'they definitely had it' and antibody tests proved them wrong.

Immunity? Where's the concrete evidence? Not stats, concrete evidence.

If this app was to save one life then that's one mother, father, brother sister, son, daughter etc saved.

It really is an absolute no-brainer.
(10-01-2020, 05:31 PM)MassDebater Wrote: [ -> ]Some medical staff in a yank hospital have tested positive multiple times. Re-infection is real.

Wasn't there a case recently of someone testing positive twice, months apart with 2 different Strains?
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