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(06-10-2020, 11:48 PM)Squid Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2020, 07:23 PM)Arti Wrote: [ -> ]Well hold on to your lunch packs, because the word is that September is not looking good, and possibly not October either.
This is going to have a devastating impact on many, many children generally those from poorer backgrounds.
Children have the right to an education and a right to play. Schools and the government need to get their acts together.
In fairness Squid I think schools have got their act together .
They are following the guidelines that the Govt have given them. I don't know if the Govt didn't fully appreciate how that would impact on school's capacity to open or they did know but didn't want to share that with the general public i.e they wanted to give the good news primary schools would re-open (although the majority have always been open) but not the detail that it would not be possible to fully re-open on a full time basis.
My concern going forward is that unless the Govt drop their guidelines on how schools can operate there will be no way schools can be back to normal in September or August if you live in Scotland. Added to that there appears to be a lack of honesty towards parents in informing them of that position, instead an insinuation that is the fault of teachers that their children are not back at school on a full time basis.
The obvious solution you might think is for the Govt to drop their guidelines to schools. The problem is how do you do that if other sectors of society are still having to follow social distancing rules. Quite rightly the teachers' unions would question why their members were being asked to work in less 'safe' conditions than other workers.
The other solution would be to bring an end to social distancing requirements in their entirety. But that would be brave when we don't fully understand this virus and with the 'normal' flu season looming.
I am glad I don't have to make those decisions - but based on their record to date I am concerned by the competence of those who will have to make them.
Schools are abiding by the governments guidelines which means for every average size class you will need two classrooms to operate in and a teacher cannot be in two places at once. Teachers and their unions are being portrayed as the problem when clearly they aren’t. Honesty from those making the guidelines, and the press only too willing to perpetuate the spin would be the best solution but I can’t see that happening anytime soon.
The guidelines are ridiculous. The effort to use other public buildings for lessons non-existent. The idea of a 6-week summer holiday is crazy.
My youngest won't have been at school for at least six months. I dread to think the damage this is going to do to the life chances of the least well off.
Learning is one thing, social interaction the other. The boy's football club have secured the use of the school field for football practice and now I'm just trying to figure out training plans that will abide by distancing etc. although in fairness I'm inclined to not make any allowances at all and let them get on with it.
(06-09-2020, 02:45 PM)4-hero Wrote: [ -> ] (06-09-2020, 02:41 PM)FenlandBoing Wrote: [ -> ]It's an opportunity to even things up for disadvantaged children! High earning working class and middle class parents can keep all their children at home for the next 6 months (pre-vaccine). Disadvantaged children can attend with half the numbers in class, enabling them to have better support and get the attention they need. The others can stay home and learn via zoom etc. Be interesting to see if it makes a significant difference to their attainment.
Like the ‘disadvantaged’ ones will turn up knowing the posh kids are at home doing Tik-tok videos , nice idea, I don’t know where you live but round here it’s the better off kids who are back at school (if allowed) and the so-called disadvantaged ones are roaming around with their man bags and North Face caps roaring round on off-road Motor Bikes
You're confusing 'ne'er do wells' with disadvantaged.
(06-10-2020, 08:30 AM)Protheroe Wrote: [ -> ]It takes a lot to wind Mrs P up, but she's livid that she can take P-Minor to Merry Hill, a garden centre, a BLM march and quite possibly soon out for a pub lunch when she still can't go to school. It's a fucking joke. All kids should be back now.
this^
how many children have actually contracted and died of Corona virus during this pandemic? how many teachers are their over 55 i.e high risk, not very many - I'm no expert but the risk of spreading the virus by opening schools is minimal - it's laughable.
Amazing how many right wing commentators and supporters are now so concerned about the welfare of the most disadvantaged. We’ve had ten years or more of austerity, shutting down of libraries, youth centres, lack of funding for transport for kids, schools, charities funding cut etc and it was never an issue, in fact it was welcome. Suddenly the welfare of them is of course paramount in their concerns...
Worra load of beep!
(06-11-2020, 11:53 AM)igorbalis Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2020, 08:30 AM)Protheroe Wrote: [ -> ]It takes a lot to wind Mrs P up, but she's livid that she can take P-Minor to Merry Hill, a garden centre, a BLM march and quite possibly soon out for a pub lunch when she still can't go to school. It's a fucking joke. All kids should be back now.
this^
how many children have actually contracted and died of Corona virus during this pandemic? how many teachers are their over 55 i.e high risk, not very many - I'm no expert but the risk of spreading the virus by opening schools is minimal - it's laughable.
You think if even one dies its worth it ?
(06-11-2020, 12:37 PM)The liquidator Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2020, 11:53 AM)igorbalis Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2020, 08:30 AM)Protheroe Wrote: [ -> ]It takes a lot to wind Mrs P up, but she's livid that she can take P-Minor to Merry Hill, a garden centre, a BLM march and quite possibly soon out for a pub lunch when she still can't go to school. It's a fucking joke. All kids should be back now.
this^
how many children have actually contracted and died of Corona virus during this pandemic? how many teachers are their over 55 i.e high risk, not very many - I'm no expert but the risk of spreading the virus by opening schools is minimal - it's laughable.
You think if even one dies its worth it ?
Oh Jesus, YES! Do you have any idea how much more likely a child is to die in a road accident on the way to / from school than from this?
(06-11-2020, 12:36 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: [ -> ]Amazing how many right wing commentators and supporters are now so concerned about the welfare of the most disadvantaged. We’ve had ten years or more of austerity, shutting down of libraries, youth centres, lack of funding for transport for kids, schools, charities funding cut etc and it was never an issue, in fact it was welcome. Suddenly the welfare of them is of course paramount in their concerns...
Worra load of beep!
Don't be a twat Derek.
Speaking as a sink comp / polytechnic educated working class white boy, the right of politics (epitomised by Dear Margaret) is all about raising kids out of the pit of disadvantaged circumstances by providing the ladder of education. The left is about chucking money in the pit and keeping them there as the future client vote.
The left doesn't own disadvantaged Britain. It traps them, it attempts to subjugate them permanently.
(06-11-2020, 04:49 PM)Protheroe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2020, 12:37 PM)The liquidator Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2020, 11:53 AM)igorbalis Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2020, 08:30 AM)Protheroe Wrote: [ -> ]It takes a lot to wind Mrs P up, but she's livid that she can take P-Minor to Merry Hill, a garden centre, a BLM march and quite possibly soon out for a pub lunch when she still can't go to school. It's a fucking joke. All kids should be back now.
this^
how many children have actually contracted and died of Corona virus during this pandemic? how many teachers are their over 55 i.e high risk, not very many - I'm no expert but the risk of spreading the virus by opening schools is minimal - it's laughable.
You think if even one dies its worth it ?
Oh Jesus, YES! Do you have any idea how much more likely a child is to die in a road accident on the way to / from school than from this?
(06-11-2020, 12:36 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: [ -> ]Amazing how many right wing commentators and supporters are now so concerned about the welfare of the most disadvantaged. We’ve had ten years or more of austerity, shutting down of libraries, youth centres, lack of funding for transport for kids, schools, charities funding cut etc and it was never an issue, in fact it was welcome. Suddenly the welfare of them is of course paramount in their concerns...
Worra load of beep!
Don't be a twat Derek.
Speaking as a sink comp / polytechnic educated working class white boy, the right of politics (epitomised by Dear Margaret) is all about raising kids out of the pit of disadvantaged circumstances by providing the ladder of education. The left is about chucking money in the pit and keeping them there as the future client vote.
The left doesn't own disadvantaged Britain. It traps them, it attempts to subjugate them permanently.
You’re going to have to explain how the Conservative party has helped the most disadvantaged young people over the last decade. Is it the closure of libraries, youth clubs, cuts to school budgets, universal credit, crime prevention / rehabilitation, public health, mental health support, charity and hospice support etc?
The idea that your party suddenly cares about the most disadvantaged young people is questionable to say the least.
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