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#21
Subjective Claim of The Decade trophy in the post.

It's become an embarassingly predictable quote of the right lately, this so called 'fact' about socialism, which is bizarre given what an arbitrary claim it is.

So...about those policies....

(10-06-2017, 07:03 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(10-06-2017, 05:26 PM)Heath Wrote:
(10-06-2017, 03:56 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(10-06-2017, 02:07 PM)Heath Wrote: Dangerous Marxist. Arf.

At least 15 million dead in the former USSR under Communism is hardly "Arf" territory.

Blimey Proth.

I know the tories are bad at the moment but I didnt think it wouldve tipped you that far over the edge pal. 

I would imagine capitalism and it's associated forms is responsible for far more deaths than that, if you start totting up the cost or war, environment, global risk factors....etc etc. 

I'm no fan or Marxism but to suggest Corbyn is a Marxist is basically pure fantasy. Have you lot not started looking inwards yet and come up with a few half decent policies?

Dear dear me. You really ought to look into the facts Heath. Socialism killed more people in the twentieth century around the world than anything else.

Corbyn may not be a Marxist but John McDonnell is a self confessed Marxist. That's not fantasy, that's his own words.
He actually says that he draws on many strands of socialist views of economics and that Marx ultimate view of capitalism was defunct. But dont let facts get in the way of your lecture on facts.
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#22
For the many. Not the Jew.
Until Momentum and the Corbyn fan club adress their anti semitism they can never be called compassionate
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#23
Blimey. You really are Dacre.
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#24
Seems torys don't have a clue how to oppose Corbyn except call him names which failed miserably in election campaign
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#25
It really is true
Marxist! Anti semite!

Tell us something positive about your own party....
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#26
I think it is positive that despite the agonising ineptitude of May and the fuckwittery of her cabinet they have 40% in the polls this week. What the fuck do they have to do to get 20-30%? I Can't imagine
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#27
(10-06-2017, 08:13 PM)Heath Wrote: Blimey. You really are Dacre.

There's another hypocrite in the pockets of the landowning community, Dacre.

Happy to turn the theft of a three quid Primark tee-shirt into a front page outrage, but uncharacteristically coy when it comes to the flouting of the law on shooting estates, or the abuse of agricultural subsidies by his monoculturist chums who seem to think land management amounts to letting their sheep chew everything down to the bedrock.
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(10-06-2017, 07:50 PM)Heath Wrote: He actually says that he draws on many strands of socialist views of economics and that Marx ultimate view of capitalism was defunct. But dont let facts get in the way of your lecture on facts.

He is on record, on camera actually stating "I'm a Marxist".

Those aren't my words Heath, they're his.





(10-06-2017, 07:50 PM)Heath Wrote: Subjective Claim of The Decade trophy in the post.

It's become an embarassingly predictable quote of the right lately, this so called 'fact' about socialism, which is bizarre given what an arbitrary claim it is.
I doubt a single one of the tens of millions dead in USSR or China (for instance) would question my objectivity.
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#29
Were those deaths not down to tyranny, rather than socialism?
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#30
I can dig out videos of Theresa telling us she wouldnt hold an election Proth but you were still happy to campaign for her.

People evolve, huh?

(10-09-2017, 09:50 AM)Malcolm Tucker Wrote: Were those deaths not down to tyranny, rather than socialism?

Nope, we have an exact figure of 16,167,898 deaths that are a direct result of Socialism. Fact.

(10-09-2017, 06:51 AM)Donegal Wrote: I think it is positive that despite the agonising ineptitude of May and the fuckwittery of her cabinet they have 40% in the polls this week. What the fuck do they have to do to get 20-30%?  I Can't imagine

Basically the remaining 40% who have something to try and preserve and think this is the way to do it.
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